Kilidj for comment

ALEX · 4th June 2008, 06:01 PM

Teodor, the crossguard and hilt particularly look very "Ottomanish". The scabbard fitings as well, so my best guess is that the blade is Ottoman as well, not imported, and not Indian. As for the stamp - my guess is that it was put for decoration purposes (sort of "to impress"). I do not think it is a sign of "quality inspection" or arsenal, or we would know and see more of them.
Also, the original Tugras stamps are usually quite elaborate miniature artwork, and this one is quite large and fairly crude, so I think it was an imitation attempt (this is only my best quess:-)

TVV · 4th June 2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ALEX

Teodor, the crossguard and hilt particularly look very "Ottomanish". The scabbard fitings as well, so my best guess is that the blade is Ottoman as well, not imported, and not Indian. As for the stamp - my guess is that it was put for decoration purposes (sort of "to impress"). I do not think it is a sign of "quality inspection" or arsenal, or we would know and see more of them.
Also, the original Tugras stamps are usually quite elaborate miniature artwork, and this one is quite large and fairly crude, so I think it was an imitation attempt (this is only my best quess:-)

Thank you Alex, your comments make a ton of sense.

TVV · 24th July 2008, 06:33 PM

Gentlemen,
Here is another sword with Ottoman hilt, which has a marking that also resembles a tughra. The blade is plain, no pattern. I have many questions:
- Is the blade European, or si it just made to resemble a European blade?
- My friend, who has the benefit of having the sword in hand, believes it is dated 1174. I personally do not see a date, just markings perhaps resembling a date. What is your take?

Thank you all for your comments,

Teodor

24th July 2008, 06:33 PM	#3
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,738	Gentlemen, Here is another sword with Ottoman hilt, which has a marking that also resembles a tughra. The blade is plain, no pattern. I have many questions: - Is the blade European, or si it just made to resemble a European blade? - My friend, who has the benefit of having the sword in hand, believes it is dated 1174. I personally do not see a date, just markings perhaps resembling a date. What is your take? Thank you all for your comments, Teodor Attached Images

4th June 2008, 06:01 PM	#1
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Teodor, the crossguard and hilt particularly look very "Ottomanish". The scabbard fitings as well, so my best guess is that the blade is Ottoman as well, not imported, and not Indian. As for the stamp - my guess is that it was put for decoration purposes (sort of "to impress"). I do not think it is a sign of "quality inspection" or arsenal, or we would know and see more of them. Also, the original Tugras stamps are usually quite elaborate miniature artwork, and this one is quite large and fairly crude, so I think it was an imitation attempt (this is only my best quess:-)