a keris for my father

[ferrylaki]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Ferry,one of these certificates is only as good as the person who prepared it.

It is possible to pay certain people to provide a certificate of this type.These people often have titles and reputations that would seem to indicate that any certificate issued by them would be reliable. Regrettably this is not always so.

Other people who do have integrity can also be found who will provide such a certificate.

As far as I can see the same thing has applied for a very long time, so even if the certificate is an old one, it is only as good as the man who prepared it.

Ok, I get the point.
most keris empu didnt write their name on the blade nor the pesi. But once i saw a very special Spear head with the name of the empu written on the pesi using old javanese inscription ( hanacaraka)... just like a signature on a Japanese katana's tang . that was the first time for me to see an inscription an a pesi that mention the name of the empu.

FERRY

[A. G. Maisey]

And I'd be very inclined to take that signature with a grain of salt.

Ferry, if you read about "who" made keris in olden times, it was this king, or that king, or some other king. The king made the keris, using the medium of such and such an empu.

What empu would be sufficiently arrogant to affix his own name to anything he made, for his lord, or for anybody else?

The work of individual makers, or schools of makers is recognised by style. It is totally outside the ethics of keris making to put one's own name on something that one has made. Just not on.

[ferrylaki]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

And I'd be very inclined to take that signature with a grain of salt.

Ferry, if you read about "who" made keris in olden times, it was this king, or that king, or some other king. The king made the keris, using the medium of such and such an empu.

What empu would be sufficiently arrogant to affix his own name to anything he made, for his lord, or for anybody else?

The work of individual makers, or schools of makers is recognised by style. It is totally outside the ethics of keris making to put one's own name on something that one has made. Just not on.

Thanks, I never knew that.
No wonder we cant find any inscription on keris blade nor pesi.