Movies and Edged Weapons Pt. 2

ariel · 29th January 2008, 01:00 AM

I guess this is the first movie of the "marital bliss" for the leading couple.
Must be visually impressive; I just hope neither of them starts belting a song and a dance in the middle of a fighting sequence.
I guess that is what Indian audience demands, but if Bollywood wants to go international, they will have to get rid of this annoyance. Can you imagine Clint Eastwood and Richard Burton taking a break from slaughtering the Nazis in the middle of "Where Eagles Landed" and doing a love duet?

Emanuel · 29th January 2008, 01:05 AM

Check out the trailer on the website. I heard choruses in the background but those were probably just the trailer's score. I got the impression that the movie was pretty serious.

ariel · 29th January 2008, 01:18 AM

Hope you are right: I'll be the first one to Netflick it!
Say whatever you want, but, quoting Roger Ebers, Aishwariya Rai is not only the most beautiful woman in the world, but the second most beautiful as well.

Jeff D · 29th January 2008, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ariel

Can you imagine Clint Eastwood and Richard Burton taking a break from slaughtering the Nazis in the middle of "Where Eagles Landed" and doing a love duet?

I thought they were just good friends!!!

Jeff

Emanuel · 19th February 2008, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ariel

I guess this is the first movie of the "marital bliss" for the leading couple. Must be visually impressive; I just hope neither of them starts belting a song and a dance in the middle of a fighting sequence.

I...er...saw the movie....yup they do the love duet. At least it's not in the fight sequences, which are quite weak. The fighting is poorly choreographed, lots of edge on edge sparing and western fencing, nothing remotely similar to gatka. The tulwars SUCK, they've got huge handles fit for the Governator, no other kinds of weapons - with the exception of one very quick shot of a jamadhar.
Basically it's one big love story, with lots of time spent in character development. Big dance and song sequences, although to be fair they're integrated in court festivities, not just popping out of the blue, and the tunes are energetic and catchy.
Pretty movie with a nice picture of Mughal and Rajput culture and art, and yes, a very beautiful Rai. Bad movie for weapons and battles.

HangPC2 · 21st February 2008, 10:36 AM

The Queen Of Langkasuka (2008)

David · 21st February 2008, 02:39 PM

Here's a trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ujKr-Y0Wz8
Says at the end that there will be a "worldwide release" so i hope that there will be an English subtitled version. Looks interesting and fun.

ariel · 21st February 2008, 06:37 PM

Very agricultural: 75 dead bodies per acre.
Looks good! Keep us informed about its availability.

VANDOO · 21st February 2008, 07:35 PM

JET LEE'S FEARLESS IS SUPPOSIDLY ABOUT CHINAS GREATEST WUSHU MASTER. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IS BASED ON HISTORY AND FACT BUT I DID LIKE THE MOVIE AND THERE WERE SOME GOOD FIGHT SECQENCES SOME WITH WEAPONS. THE FIGHT SCENES ARE SUPERHUMAN AS USUAL BUT NO FLYING OVER HOUSES, RUNNING ON WATER AND FIGHTING ON BAMBOO FRONDS.

Bill M · 22nd February 2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by HangPC2

The Queen Of Langkasuka (2008)

Looks Malay.

David · 22nd February 2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Marsh

Looks Malay.

I believe it is Bill. Langkasuka was a kingdom which later became Pattani.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langkasuka

blacklacrau · 22nd February 2008, 02:14 PM

Do u remenber Sandokan "The tiger of Mompracen" from Emilio Salgari ??
A story in borneo...

Lots of kris, parangs, daos...dayaks!

HangPC2 · 23rd February 2008, 06:23 AM

Tjoet Nja' Dhien (1988)

Weapon : Peudeueng Peusangan (Hulu Meu Apet) , Peudeueng Peusangan (Hulu Tumpang Beunteung) , Rencong , Dutch Klewang

VANDOO · 23rd March 2008, 12:44 AM

I JUST WATCHED AN INDIA FILM (THE TIGER AND THE FLAME) IT IS SAID TO HAVE BEEN INDIAS FIRST CINIMASCOPE FILM AND IS ONE OF THE EPICS WITH A CAST OF THOUSANDS. VERY COLORFUL WITH PALACES,ELEPHANTS, DANCING GIRLS, CANNONS AND BATTLES, IT IS AVAILABLE ON DVD. THE STORY IS OF A QUEEN WHO TRYS TO FREE HER COUNTRY FROM THE BRITISH EAST INDIA COMPANY.

A STRANGE BLACK AND WHITE FILM THAT IS ALMOST OPERATIC IS (ALEXANDER NEVSKY)MADE IN RUSSIA IN 1938 IT DEALS WITH THE RUSSIANS FIGHTING THE GERMANS DURING THE DAYS OF SWORDS AND ARMOR.

THE MOVIE (PATHFINDER) WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY , THE RECENT VERSION WAS BASED ON A PREVIOUS (PATHFINDER). THE ORIGINAL IS MUCH CLOSER TO FACTS AND A MUCH BETTER STORY AS WELL. IT IS ALSO OLDER AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY IN BLACK AND WHITE. I AM NOT SURE WHERE THE STORY COMES FROM ORIGINALLY BUT THE TRIBAL PEOPLE REMINDED ME OF LAPPS AND THEY DID HAVE REINDEER.

ThePepperSkull · 4th September 2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HangPC2

The Queen Of Langkasuka (2008)

One thing that came to mind immediately when I saw the trailer for this was how there were a lot of malay/indonesian Keris daggers in the beginning of the trailer, and at the end we see stuntman-turned-leading actor Dan Chupong wielding a Moro or Bruneian-type kris sword.

was that just me or was he just holding a big keris as opposed to a kris?

Here is a pic featuring Dan Chupong in the centre, holding the weapon in question with his outstretched arm:

kronckew · 4th September 2009, 08:24 PM

was intrigued by the movie trailer, so i found a copy of the dvd with english subtitles, just finished watching it. not only were there lots of keris, but there were in fact many moro kris, complete with kakatua grips, horses hoof grips, baca-baca and all. the blade the head army guy used had an ivory kakatua grip, and a distinct central ridge. there were also quite a number of dyak swords amoungst the pirates, and even one interesting axe. looked like copper breastplates, some bronze spears and quite a few flintlocks. they even worked in leonardo style hang gliders, a neat form of chain shot and even some ninjas. japanese armour, plate suits, and a few more items of interest here. even the dragon mouthed cannon... most of the edged weapons looked like the real thing, at least in the quick glimpses. i think they must have had acess to a museum or an old armoury somewhere.

all in all a quite good film. you do need to get it with your languages subtitles if you do not speak the language.

KuKulzA28 · 4th September 2009, 09:33 PM

Definitely adding "The Queens of Lang-Kasuka" to my TO SEE list!

anyone heard of Seediq Bale? It is a Taiwanese film supposed to come out this fall - last I heard. It is about the Wushe Rebellion, the Atayal Seediq's last attempt to free themselves of Japanese rule... though the warriors carrying out the mgaga with their laraw must have know the futility of facing thousands of modern soldiers, planes, and artillery with their spears, guns, bows, and swords.

youtube trailer of Seediq Bale

ariel · 5th September 2009, 12:53 AM

Two recent Russian movies
"Taras Bulba", after Gogol's novel (kozaks vs the Poles)
"1612", Polish invasion of Russia.
Both have plenty of kilijes, shamshirs, karabelas and fights galore.
Russian jingoism double galore.
But both utterly enjoyable and supervbly made.

ThePepperSkull · 3rd January 2010, 08:07 AM

A closer look at Dan Chupong's Lord Jarang Character with his Kris Sundang:

Very interesting. The sheath is lovely, and to me has a very Keris Sundang Melayu (as opposed to Mindanao/Moro kris) feel to it. The handle is nice, however the pommel seems little off. Is there any historical precedence for this specific kind of kakatua-like pommel, or should this just be chalked up to movie reproduction being a little less than historically accurate (which in this context wouldn't be a problem as this is a fantasy film anyhow.

)

I'm also trying to get a good screenshot of the blade, which from what I can tell has three waves.

ThePepperSkull · 5th September 2009, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

was intrigued by the movie trailer, so i found a copy of the dvd with english subtitles, just finished watching it. not only were there lots of keris, but there were in fact many moro kris, complete with kakatua grips, horses hoof grips, baca-baca and all. the blade the head army guy used had an ivory kakatua grip, and a distinct central ridge. there were also quite a number of dyak swords amoungst the pirates, and even one interesting axe. looked like copper breastplates, some bronze spears and quite a few flintlocks. they even worked in leonardo style hang gliders, a neat form of chain shot and even some ninjas. japanese armour, plate suits, and a few more items of interest here. even the dragon mouthed cannon... most of the edged weapons looked like the real thing, at least in the quick glimpses. i think they must have had acess to a museum or an old armoury somewhere.

all in all a quite good film. you do need to get it with your languages subtitles if you do not speak the language.

I've actually found a DVDrip torrent of the film and am watching it now with some english subtitles I found separately. Dan Chupong and Tony Jaa (the latter is not in the movie) are great stuntmen.

And his kris with the kakatua pommel is very nice. It's great to see the detail of research they put into the costuming for this semi-fantasy film. The kakatua pommel DOES look a little off to me though. Again, this could be any number of reasons, but it is a thai production and a lot of cultures' weapons from neighboring regions have been borrowed for aesthetic purposes.

In any case, it's great to see a swashbuckling movie taking place somewhere that's not commonly shown in films. And being that I'm filipino with some Indonesian and moro ancrestry, it's great to see a fantasy film inspired by malay folklore for a change.

PLUS, you can never go wrong with pirate ninjas.

migueldiaz · 21st October 2008, 04:14 AM

has braveheart been mentioned already?

earlier, bill posted an article on wallace's 6-pound and 5-foot sword leaving scotland for the first time.

migueldiaz · 23rd October 2008, 05:58 AM

I'd also highly recommend "Hero", an epic Chinese story.

The cinematography is superb, the sword fights are excellent, and the story that is full of twists and turns is very engaging.

David · 14th January 2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by migueldiaz

I'd also highly recommend "Hero", an epic Chinese story.

The cinematography is superb, the sword fights are excellent, and the story that is full of twists and turns is very engaging.

Miguel. this was has been mentioned before as well, but thanks for posting all the photos.
I absolute LOVE this film, own it and have watched it many times.

Also mentioned before (but if you like Hero), by the same director Zhang Yimou, see House of Flying Daggers. I like this one even better.

29th January 2008, 01:18 AM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Hope you are right: I'll be the first one to Netflick it! Say whatever you want, but, quoting Roger Ebers, Aishwariya Rai is not only the most beautiful woman in the world, but the second most beautiful as well. Last edited by ariel; 29th January 2008 at 01:40 AM.

22nd February 2008, 02:14 PM	#12
blacklacrau Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 50	Sandokan Do u remenber Sandokan "The tiger of Mompracen" from Emilio Salgari ?? A story in borneo... Lots of kris, parangs, daos...dayaks! Attached Images

23rd February 2008, 06:23 AM	#13
HangPC2 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Malaysia Posts: 66	Tjoet Nja' Dhien (1988) Weapon : Peudeueng Peusangan (Hulu Meu Apet) , Peudeueng Peusangan (Hulu Tumpang Beunteung) , Rencong , Dutch Klewang http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzAUMzPU0FU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc9zvFObC2E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc9zvFObC2E http://putraaceh.multiply.com/video/..._Dhien_1_of_15 http://putraaceh.multiply.com/video/..._Dhien_2_of_15 http://putraaceh.multiply.com/video/..._Dhien_3_of_15 http://putraaceh.multiply.com/video/..._Dhien_4_of_15 http://putraaceh.multiply.com/video/..._Dhien_5_of_15 http://putraaceh.multiply.com/video/..._Dhien_6_of_15 http://putraaceh.multiply.com/video/..._Dhien_7_of_15 http://putraaceh.multiply.com/video/..._Dhien_8_of_15 http://putraaceh.multiply.com/video/..._Dhien_9_of_15 http://putraaceh.multiply.com/video/...Dhien_10_of_15 http://putraaceh.multiply.com/video/...Dhien_11_of_15 http://putraaceh.multiply.com/video/...Dhien_12_of_15 http://putraaceh.multiply.com/video/...Dhien_13_of_15 http://putraaceh.multiply.com/video/...Dhien_14_of_15 http://putraaceh.multiply.com/video/...Dhien_15_of_15 Last edited by HangPC2; 23rd February 2008 at 06:36 AM.

3rd January 2010, 08:07 AM	#19
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	A closer look at Dan Chupong's Lord Jarang Character with his Kris Sundang: Very interesting. The sheath is lovely, and to me has a very Keris Sundang Melayu (as opposed to Mindanao/Moro kris) feel to it. The handle is nice, however the pommel seems little off. Is there any historical precedence for this specific kind of kakatua-like pommel, or should this just be chalked up to movie reproduction being a little less than historically accurate (which in this context wouldn't be a problem as this is a fantasy film anyhow. ) I'm also trying to get a good screenshot of the blade, which from what I can tell has three waves. Last edited by ThePepperSkull; 3rd January 2010 at 07:48 PM.

21st October 2008, 04:14 AM	#21
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	has braveheart been mentioned already? earlier, bill posted an article on wallace's 6-pound and 5-foot sword leaving scotland for the first time. Attached Images

29th January 2008, 01:00 AM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I guess this is the first movie of the "marital bliss" for the leading couple. Must be visually impressive; I just hope neither of them starts belting a song and a dance in the middle of a fighting sequence. I guess that is what Indian audience demands, but if Bollywood wants to go international, they will have to get rid of this annoyance. Can you imagine Clint Eastwood and Richard Burton taking a break from slaughtering the Nazis in the middle of "Where Eagles Landed" and doing a love duet?

29th January 2008, 01:05 AM	#2
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Check out the trailer on the website. I heard choruses in the background but those were probably just the trailer's score. I got the impression that the movie was pretty serious.

21st February 2008, 10:36 AM	#6
HangPC2 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Malaysia Posts: 66	The Queen Of Langkasuka (2008)

21st February 2008, 02:39 PM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,229	Here's a trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ujKr-Y0Wz8 Says at the end that there will be a "worldwide release" so i hope that there will be an English subtitled version. Looks interesting and fun.

21st February 2008, 06:37 PM	#8
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Very agricultural: 75 dead bodies per acre. Looks good! Keep us informed about its availability.

21st February 2008, 07:35 PM	#9
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	JET LEE'S FEARLESS IS SUPPOSIDLY ABOUT CHINAS GREATEST WUSHU MASTER. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IS BASED ON HISTORY AND FACT BUT I DID LIKE THE MOVIE AND THERE WERE SOME GOOD FIGHT SECQENCES SOME WITH WEAPONS. THE FIGHT SCENES ARE SUPERHUMAN AS USUAL BUT NO FLYING OVER HOUSES, RUNNING ON WATER AND FIGHTING ON BAMBOO FRONDS.

23rd March 2008, 12:44 AM	#14
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I JUST WATCHED AN INDIA FILM (THE TIGER AND THE FLAME) IT IS SAID TO HAVE BEEN INDIAS FIRST CINIMASCOPE FILM AND IS ONE OF THE EPICS WITH A CAST OF THOUSANDS. VERY COLORFUL WITH PALACES,ELEPHANTS, DANCING GIRLS, CANNONS AND BATTLES, IT IS AVAILABLE ON DVD. THE STORY IS OF A QUEEN WHO TRYS TO FREE HER COUNTRY FROM THE BRITISH EAST INDIA COMPANY. A STRANGE BLACK AND WHITE FILM THAT IS ALMOST OPERATIC IS (ALEXANDER NEVSKY)MADE IN RUSSIA IN 1938 IT DEALS WITH THE RUSSIANS FIGHTING THE GERMANS DURING THE DAYS OF SWORDS AND ARMOR. THE MOVIE (PATHFINDER) WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY , THE RECENT VERSION WAS BASED ON A PREVIOUS (PATHFINDER). THE ORIGINAL IS MUCH CLOSER TO FACTS AND A MUCH BETTER STORY AS WELL. IT IS ALSO OLDER AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY IN BLACK AND WHITE. I AM NOT SURE WHERE THE STORY COMES FROM ORIGINALLY BUT THE TRIBAL PEOPLE REMINDED ME OF LAPPS AND THEY DID HAVE REINDEER.

4th September 2009, 08:24 PM	#16
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,239	was intrigued by the movie trailer, so i found a copy of the dvd with english subtitles, just finished watching it. not only were there lots of keris, but there were in fact many moro kris, complete with kakatua grips, horses hoof grips, baca-baca and all. the blade the head army guy used had an ivory kakatua grip, and a distinct central ridge. there were also quite a number of dyak swords amoungst the pirates, and even one interesting axe. looked like copper breastplates, some bronze spears and quite a few flintlocks. they even worked in leonardo style hang gliders, a neat form of chain shot and even some ninjas. japanese armour, plate suits, and a few more items of interest here. even the dragon mouthed cannon... most of the edged weapons looked like the real thing, at least in the quick glimpses. i think they must have had acess to a museum or an old armoury somewhere. all in all a quite good film. you do need to get it with your languages subtitles if you do not speak the language.

4th September 2009, 09:33 PM	#17
KuKulzA28 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: between work and sleep Posts: 731	Definitely adding "The Queens of Lang-Kasuka" to my TO SEE list! anyone heard of Seediq Bale? It is a Taiwanese film supposed to come out this fall - last I heard. It is about the Wushe Rebellion, the Atayal Seediq's last attempt to free themselves of Japanese rule... though the warriors carrying out the mgaga with their laraw must have know the futility of facing thousands of modern soldiers, planes, and artillery with their spears, guns, bows, and swords. youtube trailer of Seediq Bale

5th September 2009, 12:53 AM	#18
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Two recent Russian movies "Taras Bulba", after Gogol's novel (kozaks vs the Poles) "1612", Polish invasion of Russia. Both have plenty of kilijes, shamshirs, karabelas and fights galore. Russian jingoism double galore. But both utterly enjoyable and supervbly made.

23rd October 2008, 05:58 AM	#22
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	I'd also highly recommend "Hero", an epic Chinese story. The cinematography is superb, the sword fights are excellent, and the story that is full of twists and turns is very engaging. Attached Images