coments on this...a help

ferrylaki · 18th January 2008, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henk

Alan,

Thank you for your explanation.
Looking a little bit further I have to agree with you. The gandar is in a good condition and the scabbard on the backside has a matching patina between gandar and wrongko.
Probably the discolouration is a result of one of the possibilities you mentioned.

The pelet motive on the gayaman seem too bright, pelet motive usually comes darker. I also agree about the gandar is a match with the gayaman.
thia is an example of my old timoho gayaman. the motive is not a favorite one, but still nice though. a very dark pelet timoho.
Some friends told me it is a east java gayaman style.

I've seen some modification on pelet motive. mostly they were found on " pelet kendhit" ( belt pattern pelet) in order to make the pattern they some kind of put something hot on the gayaman ( wood) the burnt wood left a dark
pattern...they made a circular ( horizontal) pattern around the gayaman, and a pelet kendit it is. but unfortunately I dont have the picture of the fake pelet kendhit.

FERRY

Marcokeris · 18th January 2008, 12:05 PM

Could the two sarong be from Madura area?

Emanuel · 18th January 2008, 11:46 PM

Thanks Henk and Ferry for the explanation. I had not seen this done before.

Emanuel

blacklacrau · 22nd January 2008, 10:36 AM

This type of hilt is not very usual? I do not remember to have seen images like this one...
Thanks

Alam Shah · 22nd January 2008, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blacklacrau

This type of hilt is not very usual? I do not remember to have seen images like this one...
Thanks

The hilt seems without the usual patras on the front portion of the hilt. Shape of the hilt resembles the stylistic semar type...

ferrylaki · 23rd January 2008, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alam Shah

The hilt seems without the usual patras on the front portion of the hilt. Shape of the hilt resembles the stylistic semar type...

This is another picture of the hilt. not a specific one, but this is a better picture .
The hilt has some differences from the usual hilt tipe.
may be east java style ( I dont know) .
Please....

regardds,
Ferrylaki ( Indonesia)

Alam Shah · 23rd January 2008, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrylaki

This is another picture of the hilt. not a specific one, but this is a better picture .
The hilt has some differences from the usual hilt type.
may be east java style ( I dont know) .
Please....

Actually I was referring to blacklacrau's piece.
Your piece is nice too...

Henk · 23rd January 2008, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blacklacrau

This type of hilt is not very usual? I do not remember to have seen images like this one...
Thanks

As Alam Shah said it resembles the stylistic semar type without the usual patras on the front side. I've seen these ukirans more often. If I'm not mistaken this kind of ukiran is more usual in East Java.
I must admit that I really appriciate this type of ukiran.

asian-keris · 7th February 2008, 09:43 PM

Keris to my opinion From Madura area 1900 piece.

18th January 2008, 12:05 PM	#2
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Could the two sarong be from Madura area?

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Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Thanks Henk and Ferry for the explanation. I had not seen this done before. Emanuel

22nd January 2008, 10:36 AM	#4
blacklacrau Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 50	This type of hilt is not very usual? I do not remember to have seen images like this one... Thanks

7th February 2008, 09:43 PM	#9
asian-keris Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 32	Keris to my opinion From Madura area 1900 piece.