Help needed with Tulwar.

Pukka Bundook · 27th December 2007, 07:46 PM

Jans,
I may be on the lookout for another................with Rust this time!!
I'd prefer rust to angle grinder and acid treatment!!

RSWORD · 27th December 2007, 07:59 PM

To answer one of your original questions you can definitely see the lamination in the blade. I can clearly see the wavy pattern along the edge and it appears as though it may turn back and around the tip which would be a neat and unusual feature. The middle portion of the blade would most probably have the larger, more open pattern that looks like large circular distortions. Most certainly a pattern welded blade.

Henk · 27th December 2007, 09:15 PM

I don't know either what happened with this piece, but RSWORD is right. A patterned welded blade.

As Jeff and Ward said happy working. I think it is worth the effort to get this tulwar back in shape and finish it with an etch.
Just like you restored that tulwar that was abused with a grinder. You did an awsome job then and I'm sure you can do it again.

Jens Nordlunde · 27th December 2007, 10:41 PM

Richard,
I had another view on the blade - and it is in a bad condition - in a realy bad one.
The fact that the pattern is in relief after the acid bath, does indicate that it is pattern welded, so take your time - and let us know

- yes I know, but still.
Jens

Robert · 28th December 2007, 04:54 AM

This looks more like silica sand blasting

with a fine grade of sand (it not only removes rust but also softer metals) than acid etching to me. JMHO

Robert

Pukka Bundook · 28th December 2007, 05:13 AM

Thank you for the words of confidence. It appears some have more confidence in my ability to put it right, than I have!

Robert,
I know it looks like sand-blasting. but on the pommel disc, there is some silver koftgari remaining, and this is still smooth, whilst the steel around it is pitted like the rest of the sword. Therfore iI can only think it was a pretty savage acid that was used.

R.

Robert · 28th December 2007, 05:40 AM

You are quite right, if the silver was not damaged it had to be acid. Without the benefit of pictures of the area with the silver koftgari I was going by the overall appearance of the rest of the sword.

Robert

27th December 2007, 07:46 PM	#1
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Jans, I may be on the lookout for another................with Rust this time!! I'd prefer rust to angle grinder and acid treatment!!

27th December 2007, 07:59 PM	#2
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,093	To answer one of your original questions you can definitely see the lamination in the blade. I can clearly see the wavy pattern along the edge and it appears as though it may turn back and around the tip which would be a neat and unusual feature. The middle portion of the blade would most probably have the larger, more open pattern that looks like large circular distortions. Most certainly a pattern welded blade.

27th December 2007, 09:15 PM	#3
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	I don't know either what happened with this piece, but RSWORD is right. A patterned welded blade. As Jeff and Ward said happy working. I think it is worth the effort to get this tulwar back in shape and finish it with an etch. Just like you restored that tulwar that was abused with a grinder. You did an awsome job then and I'm sure you can do it again.

27th December 2007, 10:41 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Richard, I had another view on the blade - and it is in a bad condition - in a realy bad one. The fact that the pattern is in relief after the acid bath, does indicate that it is pattern welded, so take your time - and let us know - yes I know, but still. Jens

28th December 2007, 04:54 AM	#5
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	This looks more like silica sand blasting with a fine grade of sand (it not only removes rust but also softer metals) than acid etching to me. JMHO Robert

28th December 2007, 05:13 AM	#6
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Thank you for the words of confidence. It appears some have more confidence in my ability to put it right, than I have! Robert, I know it looks like sand-blasting. but on the pommel disc, there is some silver koftgari remaining, and this is still smooth, whilst the steel around it is pitted like the rest of the sword. Therfore iI can only think it was a pretty savage acid that was used. R.

28th December 2007, 05:40 AM	#7
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	You are quite right, if the silver was not damaged it had to be acid. Without the benefit of pictures of the area with the silver koftgari I was going by the overall appearance of the rest of the sword. Robert