Parang Negara/Muslim Mandau

[VVV]

Originally Posted by Dajak

....the brass ferrule is also seen in silver and copper so not an indication .

And it is typical dayak style from Sarawak /Kalimantan .


Ben

Hi Ben,

It wasn't so much the brass ferrule, stand alone, as the combo with the (malay/muslim?) floral motif that suddenly made me think about Negara swords.
Do you mean Sarawak OR Kalimantan???

Michael

[Dajak]

Hi Michael I mean Sarawak

And Charles was talking about the brass ferule COULD BE AN INDICATION :

the motifs on the blade are the indication that it is MUSLIM

these I think this can also find on some sumatra blade s


But you mean it could also be from muslim North borneo some off the parang sangkit has the same ferrule and the motif handle scabbard looks like the litle parang I have from North Borneo


Ben

[VVV]

Originally Posted by Dajak

...scabbard looks like the litle parang I have from North Borneo


Ben

Hi Ben,

It seems like we agree that all of the features are Muslim indicators.
Could you please show the little parang and scabbard as I don't get this part?
Do you have a scabbard, resembling mine, from North Borneo?

Michael

[Dajak]

No not the scabbard but the handle has also floral motif and silver ferrule



Ben

[VVV]

Originally Posted by Dajak

No not the scabbard but the handle has also floral motif and silver ferrule

Ben

I am sorry Ben but here I think you strech the floral motif a bit too far.
To me your Golok could just as well come from Sumatra (this doesn't mean that it couldn't come from Borneo but that I don't find it typical for f.i. Sarawak).

Below is an example that I traded from Charles (I haven't had time to take new pictures so I hope that Charles forgives me for using his).
This one has both the floral motif on the hilt as well as on the scabbard.
Still I think most of us would attribute this to Sumatra in style?

IMHO it's the combination with the Malay floral motifs and the f.i.Dayak mandau design that makes a weapon "Malay/Muslim Dayak".

Michael

[Dajak]

Hi take a good look sumatra I never see with rattan bindings and look at the motif sumatra goes inside this one goes outside .

And sorry it is not silver but nickel/copper/zinc ie brass we call this berlin silver


Ben

[VVV]

Originally Posted by Dajak

Hi take a good look sumatra I never see with rattan bindings and look at the motif sumatra goes inside this one goes outside...

Hi Ben,

That's a very interesting observation I haven't thought about before.
It's probably very good together with other clues, but not by itself.
Because this is also found in some parts of Sumatra.
Like f.i. the Padang highlands (see a couple of examples illustrated in the Leiden catalogue - Sumatra III; Central Sumatra by Fischer).
As well as Aceh of course (which probably isn't relevant in this case).

Also, several Borneo hilts have the floral motif going inside?
On the rattan I don't think I have seen it often on Borneo weapons?

Michael

[Mytribalworld]

Originally Posted by Dajak

Hi take a good look sumatra I never see with rattan bindings and look at the motif sumatra goes inside this one goes outside .

And sorry it is not silver but nickel/copper/zinc ie brass we call this berlin silver


Ben

Hi Ben,

can you list pics of the blade? The handle looks indeed like banjarese style...

Arjan.