Jalak Budo

lemmythesmith · 25th October 2007, 10:25 PM

Hi everyone, here's my "jalak budo" The horseshoes are from Germany, Majapahit/Mataram period, the bars are the first stage in forming the pamor, so far, so good....... Used about half of them to get to this stage, there's a medieval axe fragment in there too.

ganjawulung · 26th October 2007, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lemmythesmith

Hi everyone, here's my "jalak budo" The horseshoes are from Germany, Majapahit/Mataram period, the bars are the first stage in forming the pamor, so far, so good....... Used about half of them to get to this stage, there's a medieval axe fragment in there too.

Dear Lemmy,
On the "tangguh" of the horseshoes. How could you convince us that these materials were from Majapahit (13-15the century) and Mataram Islam (16th-18th century) period?

Ganjawulung

lemmythesmith · 26th October 2007, 08:24 PM

Hi Ganja, I attributed the "tangguh" of the horseshoes by the shape and size of them-there's one shoe which has (had!) a wavy edge and very large nails, this is characteristic of very early shoes of the 12th to 13th century CE, the other shoes are wide and thin with six holes-typical of the 15th and 16th century CE. Later shoes tend to be much thicker. It's a bit like keris tangguh-differant periods have differant characteristics. Works much nicer than more modern iron too!! Probably smelted with charcoal so there may not be as many impurities. There's a wee bit of Roman iron in there too....

ganjawulung · 26th October 2007, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lemmythesmith

Hi Ganja, I attributed the "tangguh" of the horseshoes by the shape and size of them-there's one shoe which has (had!) a wavy edge and very large nails, this is characteristic of very early shoes of the 12th to 13th century CE, the other shoes are wide and thin with six holes-typical of the 15th and 16th century CE. Later shoes tend to be much thicker. It's a bit like keris tangguh-differant periods have differant characteristics. Works much nicer than more modern iron too!! Probably smelted with charcoal so there may not be as many impurities. There's a wee bit of Roman iron in there too....

Fantastique,

So we are waiting for your European Jalak Budo...

Ganjawulung

25th October 2007, 10:25 PM	#1
lemmythesmith Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 93	Hi everyone, here's my "jalak budo" The horseshoes are from Germany, Majapahit/Mataram period, the bars are the first stage in forming the pamor, so far, so good....... Used about half of them to get to this stage, there's a medieval axe fragment in there too. Attached Images

26th October 2007, 08:24 PM	#3
lemmythesmith Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 93	Hi Ganja, I attributed the "tangguh" of the horseshoes by the shape and size of them-there's one shoe which has (had!) a wavy edge and very large nails, this is characteristic of very early shoes of the 12th to 13th century CE, the other shoes are wide and thin with six holes-typical of the 15th and 16th century CE. Later shoes tend to be much thicker. It's a bit like keris tangguh-differant periods have differant characteristics. Works much nicer than more modern iron too!! Probably smelted with charcoal so there may not be as many impurities. There's a wee bit of Roman iron in there too....