I say Africa, you say?

Tim Simmons · 19th October 2007, 02:45 PM

Thanks dennee that's so helpful. I now rather fancy I did quite well.

Henk · 19th October 2007, 07:48 PM

Tim,

Are you going to clean it so that the koftgari becomes visible? And if so a description of the process with pictures?
Looks like a nice find again.

Tim Simmons · 19th October 2007, 08:16 PM

Thanks Henk another good buy you say, it must be due to my new hearing aid.
There really is not much more koftgari to see just specks of it all over the item. It is best just left alone to go dark again.

katana · 19th October 2007, 08:53 PM

My 'off the cuff' suggestion is obviously wrong

I have read that a few soldiers made momento's of the Zulu wars (a la 'trench art') and this seemed an ideal candidate. Well spotted Dennee, a pen case it is

the idea that it could be used as a cosh seems valid with those bulbous ends.

Still a very interesting object Tim, it is a shame the decoration has deteriated.... the clues it could have given you

Tim Simmons · 20th October 2007, 11:32 AM

This is interesting. A good addition to the MET publication "Warriors of the Himalayas" many of the photographs are the but with a little more information.
http://www.rel.su.se/Papers/Tibetan%...y%20Reform.pdf

dennee · 20th October 2007, 05:31 PM

Yes, Tim, I think you got a good one.

And many thanks for the article.

Tim Simmons · 20th October 2007, 10:47 PM

Thanks dennee, the first photograph could be seen as quite an amusing reflection on the taste of late Victorian intelligentsia. The knight and his valet just as things should be, indeed 1903 one would be emerging into art nouveau from romantic medievalism. Makes me think of the "Man from La Mancha" but that was Peter O'toole? in 1972.

Thought i had better add this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quixote

20th October 2007, 10:47 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Thanks dennee, the first photograph could be seen as quite an amusing reflection on the taste of late Victorian intelligentsia. The knight and his valet just as things should be, indeed 1903 one would be emerging into art nouveau from romantic medievalism. Makes me think of the "Man from La Mancha" but that was Peter O'toole? in 1972. Thought i had better add this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quixote Last edited by Tim Simmons; 21st October 2007 at 07:38 PM.

19th October 2007, 02:45 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Thanks dennee that's so helpful. I now rather fancy I did quite well.

19th October 2007, 07:48 PM	#2
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Tim, Are you going to clean it so that the koftgari becomes visible? And if so a description of the process with pictures? Looks like a nice find again.

19th October 2007, 08:16 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Thanks Henk another good buy you say, it must be due to my new hearing aid. There really is not much more koftgari to see just specks of it all over the item. It is best just left alone to go dark again.

19th October 2007, 08:53 PM	#4
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	My 'off the cuff' suggestion is obviously wrong I have read that a few soldiers made momento's of the Zulu wars (a la 'trench art') and this seemed an ideal candidate. Well spotted Dennee, a pen case it is the idea that it could be used as a cosh seems valid with those bulbous ends. Still a very interesting object Tim, it is a shame the decoration has deteriated.... the clues it could have given you

20th October 2007, 11:32 AM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	This is interesting. A good addition to the MET publication "Warriors of the Himalayas" many of the photographs are the but with a little more information. http://www.rel.su.se/Papers/Tibetan%...y%20Reform.pdf

20th October 2007, 05:31 PM	#6
dennee Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: College Park, MD Posts: 186	Yes, Tim, I think you got a good one. And many thanks for the article.