Battered kris

Emanuel · 15th October 2007, 07:06 PM

Thank you for the picture Henk, I must say that I like this type of hilt. It's simple and elegant I think.

Kai, I have not received the kris yet, but I will take and post new pics as soon as I get it. If the hilt has a recessed part on the end to fit a pommel into then I will likely carve a new one. Otherwise I don't wuite know how I would attach the pommel - gluing it is not an attractive option. If it is just flat like Henk's then I may just leave it and redo the cloth wrapping.

Best regards,
Emanuel

Emanuel · 20th January 2008, 02:18 AM

Well, I've had the kris for a while now and as soon as I got it I realized that the hilt had been pretty much splits into fragments. So I've been playing around with carving a brand new one. I understand that banati wood is very often used on kris, but I haven't been able to find any information on this essence. Does anyone know the scientific or international name for this type of wood?
I could always use other slightly different but similar woods more readily accessible.

Thanks,
Emanuel

Emanuel · 20th January 2008, 02:49 PM

I just read about santol and langka woods being used in absence of banati. Is banati also known as ramin, and endangered essence?

Battara · 21st January 2008, 01:32 AM

Banati is not a species of wood but the root wood or burl. That being said, most of the wood used was narra (inside part red and outside part brown). Narra is now endangered. I may have a hilt coming in soon if you are interested.

Emanuel · 21st January 2008, 02:11 AM

Ah I see, thanks for the clarification Battara! I'd still like to try my hand at carving a hilt and pommel. Since it's endangered, I'd rather use another type of wood. What would be a good alternative?

Battara · 21st January 2008, 06:37 AM

I would recommend either padouk (a cousin to narra and is an orange-red) or a burled walnut. Burled padouk is hard to find.

Mabuting Kapilaran!

PS - the blade looks Maguoindanao and the scabbard bands are probably white metal under the type opf patina that I see.

Emanuel · 21st January 2008, 02:50 PM

Thanks for the info and the wishes! I've found an exotic woods dealer close (relatively) by and he has burled padauk in stock. I will visit the shop in the coming weeks and see how it goes.
Burled walnut looks pretty good too.

15th October 2007, 07:06 PM	#1
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Thank you for the picture Henk, I must say that I like this type of hilt. It's simple and elegant I think. Kai, I have not received the kris yet, but I will take and post new pics as soon as I get it. If the hilt has a recessed part on the end to fit a pommel into then I will likely carve a new one. Otherwise I don't wuite know how I would attach the pommel - gluing it is not an attractive option. If it is just flat like Henk's then I may just leave it and redo the cloth wrapping. Best regards, Emanuel

20th January 2008, 02:18 AM	#2
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Well, I've had the kris for a while now and as soon as I got it I realized that the hilt had been pretty much splits into fragments. So I've been playing around with carving a brand new one. I understand that banati wood is very often used on kris, but I haven't been able to find any information on this essence. Does anyone know the scientific or international name for this type of wood? I could always use other slightly different but similar woods more readily accessible. Thanks, Emanuel

20th January 2008, 02:49 PM	#3
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	I just read about santol and langka woods being used in absence of banati. Is banati also known as ramin, and endangered essence?

21st January 2008, 01:32 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Banati is not a species of wood but the root wood or burl. That being said, most of the wood used was narra (inside part red and outside part brown). Narra is now endangered. I may have a hilt coming in soon if you are interested.

21st January 2008, 02:11 AM	#5
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Ah I see, thanks for the clarification Battara! I'd still like to try my hand at carving a hilt and pommel. Since it's endangered, I'd rather use another type of wood. What would be a good alternative?

21st January 2008, 06:37 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	I would recommend either padouk (a cousin to narra and is an orange-red) or a burled walnut. Burled padouk is hard to find. Mabuting Kapilaran! PS - the blade looks Maguoindanao and the scabbard bands are probably white metal under the type opf patina that I see.

21st January 2008, 02:50 PM	#7
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Thanks for the info and the wishes! I've found an exotic woods dealer close (relatively) by and he has burled padauk in stock. I will visit the shop in the coming weeks and see how it goes. Burled walnut looks pretty good too.