Meteoric Patrem-Made In England...

David · 23rd September 2007, 04:23 PM

Quite nice for a Brit Keris.

And finally a keris that we can say for sure is made with meteoric pamor.

Did you also make the dress?

lemmythesmith · 23rd September 2007, 05:03 PM

Hi David, aye, it's all my work... though I may be buying mendak instead of making them-too many blades to try to take time off to fiddle with silver!!

Michel · 23rd September 2007, 08:15 PM

Hi lemmythesmith
A superb work ! Congratulation. Wrought iron + meteorite + steel, that must have been a nice exercise to heat weld.
I am curious to know what is the weight of the keris blade . You had 615 g of metal originally, how much has been lost in the forging process ( and stock removal !)
I am very impressed because I am in a similar process but I am sure no way close to your result.
Good job keep doing it.
Michel

A. G. Maisey · 23rd September 2007, 10:35 PM

Nice forge-work, Lemmy.

Raden Usman Djogja · 24th September 2007, 12:39 PM

bravoooooo

Richard Furrer · 24th September 2007, 04:41 PM

Lemmy,
I heard about a smith geting permission and using the Windsor iron in some work..I assume that is you.
Nice bit of work there.

I have done a bit of work with meteorites over the years as well..no keris though.
http://forums.dfoggknives.com/index....meteorite+ingo

Ric Furrer
Sturgeon Bay, WI

A. G. Maisey · 24th September 2007, 10:18 PM

Richard, I attempted to access your pics, but cannot get to them. Some sort of "not a member" thing.

By what you have written it looks as if you smelted the meteoritic material.

I've worked meteoritic material a number times and have only ever done it in the forge. You just bring it together gently to begin, after about 3 or 4 welds its more or less stable, and it takes about 7 welds to get it nice and clean. Then it has been welded in with old iron. Where I've used it in a keris it has been used as the pamor layers, where I've used it in damascus it was welded with 01.

Haven't done any of this work for a few years. From memory I started to work with it about 1986 or 1988, and did the last bit about 1996 or 1997.I used Arizona meteorite, and really, its no big trick to work the stuff, as long as you stay gentle till it comes together. Get too heavy handed early, and it comes apart under the hammer like cottage cheese.

Back about 12 or 14 years ago I supplied a quantity of meteoritic material , ready to be used as pamor material to a pandai keris in Solo. He made two keris using this material. The first one was sold to ---I think---the Ambassador to Indonesia for Venezuela, I have the second one. Both these keris used a damascus core.

23rd September 2007, 08:15 PM	#3
Michel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 139	Bravo Hi lemmythesmith A superb work ! Congratulation. Wrought iron + meteorite + steel, that must have been a nice exercise to heat weld. I am curious to know what is the weight of the keris blade . You had 615 g of metal originally, how much has been lost in the forging process ( and stock removal !) I am very impressed because I am in a similar process but I am sure no way close to your result. Good job keep doing it. Michel

24th September 2007, 12:39 PM	#5
Raden Usman Djogja Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 199	BRAVO bravoooooo

23rd September 2007, 04:23 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Quite nice for a Brit Keris. And finally a keris that we can say for sure is made with meteoric pamor. Did you also make the dress?

23rd September 2007, 05:03 PM	#2
lemmythesmith Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 93	Hi David, aye, it's all my work... though I may be buying mendak instead of making them-too many blades to try to take time off to fiddle with silver!!

23rd September 2007, 10:35 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Nice forge-work, Lemmy.

24th September 2007, 04:41 PM	#6
Richard Furrer Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin Posts: 163	Lemmy, I heard about a smith geting permission and using the Windsor iron in some work..I assume that is you. Nice bit of work there. I have done a bit of work with meteorites over the years as well..no keris though. http://forums.dfoggknives.com/index....meteorite+ingo Ric Furrer Sturgeon Bay, WI

24th September 2007, 10:18 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Richard, I attempted to access your pics, but cannot get to them. Some sort of "not a member" thing. By what you have written it looks as if you smelted the meteoritic material. I've worked meteoritic material a number times and have only ever done it in the forge. You just bring it together gently to begin, after about 3 or 4 welds its more or less stable, and it takes about 7 welds to get it nice and clean. Then it has been welded in with old iron. Where I've used it in a keris it has been used as the pamor layers, where I've used it in damascus it was welded with 01. Haven't done any of this work for a few years. From memory I started to work with it about 1986 or 1988, and did the last bit about 1996 or 1997.I used Arizona meteorite, and really, its no big trick to work the stuff, as long as you stay gentle till it comes together. Get too heavy handed early, and it comes apart under the hammer like cottage cheese. Back about 12 or 14 years ago I supplied a quantity of meteoritic material , ready to be used as pamor material to a pandai keris in Solo. He made two keris using this material. The first one was sold to ---I think---the Ambassador to Indonesia for Venezuela, I have the second one. Both these keris used a damascus core.