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21st September 2007, 01:33 PM
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While this sword may eventually be established as gunto, I must respectfully disagree at this point. The only gunto-like fitting shown is the scabbard hang-ring. The tsuba/guard, for instance, is definitely not gunto, and the three hole tang is not typical gunto, in my limited experience.
Very interesting sword, however. I'd like to hear from Rich about this one. |
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21st September 2007, 03:01 PM
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I have to agree with Rick that this is not a gunto if we judge by the current fittings.
It also looks like the tsuba (handle) is held on by wood screws. Should be tapered pegs. |
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21st September 2007, 04:13 PM
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21st September 2007, 05:01 PM
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 PS! (that means "OOPS with embaressed faces) Sorry! I agree with Andrew -- TWICE!
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22nd September 2007, 12:10 AM
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looks a clumsy one to me, blade has no distal taper for starters.
It isnt Japanese even at the very lowest tourist level I am sure. The Jap. Army took swordmiths with them during world war 2 for repair, modifying etc. , it realy doesnt look remotly like thier work though, by any stretch of imagination. Its as genuine Japanese as a $1 ebay piece from Shanghai.  Spiral Last edited by spiral; 22nd September 2007 at 01:24 AM. |
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22nd September 2007, 04:00 AM
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Perhaps I have used the term distal taper incorrectly? If so it was unintentional. I does narrow over last 19cm towards tip by 1mm apprx. i used calipers to establish this. This is what I meant by"slight distal taper towards tip" My apologies if i have caused confusion. I have done my best to present this object as honestly and clearly as I can.
Dan 
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22nd September 2007, 09:27 AM
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A couple more shots.
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22nd September 2007, 09:41 AM
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Hi Jonathon, Don't hold back now!  I think that we were all just trying to be polite to a new forum member, but you have laid the correct information bluntly on the line.  Dan, Stick around, you will learn a lot here. Wish we had better news about your sword. |
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22nd September 2007, 10:30 AM
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Thank you Spiral, Thank you Bill for putting me out of my misery. This is the first item I bought about a year ago and its been niggling me since. I then rediscovered kukris, thank goodness!
Johnathon, I must respectfully oppose your designation as a $1 shanghai ebay sword. Clumbsy yes, illformed yes, ugly yes. modern chinese construction, not from where I stand. Structurally I feel this is a very strong piece of steel, It can absorb a great deal of stress and return true. Thank you for difinitively telling what it is not. I still feel it has some redeeming qualities. I wonder If bored Australian engineers made this at the end of WWII for sale to the better paid American soldiers.Perhaps they copied from a genuine piece, which could explain its crude but robust nature. I was hoping it was of a more tribal nature. Thanks again for ending my confusion The next items I'm about to post are of chinese origin I believe, more bad news on the way I expect  Kind regards to All Daniel
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