Short bladed tulwar

ariel · 19th August 2007, 07:06 PM

Could it be an equivalent of "nimcha"? SW India had a large Arab-related populations. Perhaps, it is not a " boy toy" or a ceremonial gift but rather just a short sword similar in its function to the naval cutlass.

Tim Simmons · 19th August 2007, 07:09 PM

Boy toys have more curves and often smell nice. A close up of the fuller end and sword tip would be helpful.

Lew · 19th August 2007, 11:01 PM

Here is a close up of tip and koftgari on the spine. Ham was able to translate it and it reads "THERE IS NO HERO LIKE 'ALI AND SWORD LIKE DHUL'FAKAR".

Lew

Ian · 20th August 2007, 12:37 AM

Lew:

The blade looks as though it has been shortened to me. The broad fuller runs right through the tip area. Perhaps an old favorite that broke and someone had it reworked (albeit a very good reshaping).

Ian.

Lew · 20th August 2007, 12:59 AM

Ian

I thought the same thing but the axis of the tip would be all wrong if you added 8-10 inches. The fuller runs lower than the tip. I also checked the hardened edge and it wraps up and around the the top of the tip. So if it were shortened it would have to have been reheat treated to have that effect at the tip.

Lew

CharlesS · 20th August 2007, 02:04 AM

I think it is simply a secondary side arm, and a darn nice one.

Tim Simmons · 20th August 2007, 09:18 AM

I agree with Ian and Charles. I think it may have been altered purposely and expertly creating a heavy cutting weapon rather like a barong. To me it looks like it handles very nicely. Very nice.

19th August 2007, 11:01 PM	#3
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Here is a close up of tip and koftgari on the spine. Ham was able to translate it and it reads "THERE IS NO HERO LIKE 'ALI AND SWORD LIKE DHUL'FAKAR". Lew Attached Images Last edited by LOUIEBLADES; 19th August 2007 at 11:16 PM.

20th August 2007, 12:59 AM	#5
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Ian I thought the same thing but the axis of the tip would be all wrong if you added 8-10 inches. The fuller runs lower than the tip. I also checked the hardened edge and it wraps up and around the the top of the tip. So if it were shortened it would have to have been reheat treated to have that effect at the tip. Lew Last edited by LOUIEBLADES; 20th August 2007 at 01:35 AM.

19th August 2007, 07:06 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Could it be an equivalent of "nimcha"? SW India had a large Arab-related populations. Perhaps, it is not a " boy toy" or a ceremonial gift but rather just a short sword similar in its function to the naval cutlass.

19th August 2007, 07:09 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	Boy toys have more curves and often smell nice. A close up of the fuller end and sword tip would be helpful.

20th August 2007, 12:37 AM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,453	Lew: The blade looks as though it has been shortened to me. The broad fuller runs right through the tip area. Perhaps an old favorite that broke and someone had it reworked (albeit a very good reshaping). Ian.

20th August 2007, 02:04 AM	#6
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	I think it is simply a secondary side arm, and a darn nice one.

20th August 2007, 09:18 AM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	I agree with Ian and Charles. I think it may have been altered purposely and expertly creating a heavy cutting weapon rather like a barong. To me it looks like it handles very nicely. Very nice.