Killing Dracula

katana · 15th August 2007, 05:39 PM

......what....no garlic

Joe · 15th August 2007, 06:35 PM

I was in the Ripley's Believe It or Not Museum in Florida two weeks ago, and tere was one in a case there. According to the the card that accompanied it, these were authentic kits sold in Europe in the mid-19th century. The one at Ripley's though had no stakes, but included a flintlock pistol with a pack of three silver bullets.

Neat stuff.

Bill M · 15th August 2007, 06:58 PM

http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article...0&in_page_id=2

Jim McDougall · 15th August 2007, 07:14 PM

Always enjoy the light side Ariel!!!!

you have a keen eye in your ebay travels.

After a good chuckle with this interesting piece of European folklore

it was interesting to recall how much of similarly based folklore was applied to the swords and weapons. This is meant in a talismanic sense of course referring to the cabalistic and allegorical markings seen on blades in the markings and symbolism. If I recall, the fictional Draculas historic persona, Vlad, had a sword with a Toledo blade (no idea of the particulars beyond that). Just thought it interesting to note.

Jim

Emanuel · 15th August 2007, 07:33 PM

Ottomar Rudolphe Vlad Dracula Prinz Kretzulesco (Cretulescu) Hah!

Jim, I'm thinking that Vlad Tepes had some nice Ottoman blades as well. I don't recall ever hearing about or seeing his personal effects but I'll look into it. Last year I saw a gorgeous gilded pala in the presidential palace in Bucharest. I don't recall the name of its past owner.

Emanuel

Jim McDougall · 15th August 2007, 07:59 PM

Hi Emanuel,
He certainly must have indeed have Ottoman swords, and I'd really like to see illustrations of weapons attributed to him, or for that matter any of Transylvanian provenance. Thats quite a handle he had there!

all best regards,
Jim

Emanuel · 15th August 2007, 08:33 PM

Hi Jim,
At the national Military Museum in Bucharest there were quite a few items from various princes and from other heroes. I will post in a separate thread the pics I took...I can't find my notes on the attributions though

Best regards,
Emanuel

Emanuel · 15th August 2007, 08:47 PM

Haha it seems that this kit has been sold before and it has a history in the collectors' world and Bram Stocker fans

http://infocult.typepad.com/dracula/...ekilling_.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting

This time around it went for 200$ more

15th August 2007, 06:58 PM	#3
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Sucks to be Dracula! http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article...0&in_page_id=2

15th August 2007, 05:39 PM	#1
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	......what....no garlic

15th August 2007, 06:35 PM	#2
Joe Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: McDonough, GA Posts: 48	I was in the Ripley's Believe It or Not Museum in Florida two weeks ago, and tere was one in a case there. According to the the card that accompanied it, these were authentic kits sold in Europe in the mid-19th century. The one at Ripley's though had no stakes, but included a flintlock pistol with a pack of three silver bullets. Neat stuff.

15th August 2007, 07:14 PM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,282	Always enjoy the light side Ariel!!!! you have a keen eye in your ebay travels. After a good chuckle with this interesting piece of European folklore it was interesting to recall how much of similarly based folklore was applied to the swords and weapons. This is meant in a talismanic sense of course referring to the cabalistic and allegorical markings seen on blades in the markings and symbolism. If I recall, the fictional Draculas historic persona, Vlad, had a sword with a Toledo blade (no idea of the particulars beyond that). Just thought it interesting to note. Jim

15th August 2007, 07:33 PM	#5
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Ottomar Rudolphe Vlad Dracula Prinz Kretzulesco (Cretulescu) Hah! Jim, I'm thinking that Vlad Tepes had some nice Ottoman blades as well. I don't recall ever hearing about or seeing his personal effects but I'll look into it. Last year I saw a gorgeous gilded pala in the presidential palace in Bucharest. I don't recall the name of its past owner. Emanuel

15th August 2007, 07:59 PM	#6
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,282	Hi Emanuel, He certainly must have indeed have Ottoman swords, and I'd really like to see illustrations of weapons attributed to him, or for that matter any of Transylvanian provenance. Thats quite a handle he had there! all best regards, Jim

15th August 2007, 08:33 PM	#7
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Hi Jim, At the national Military Museum in Bucharest there were quite a few items from various princes and from other heroes. I will post in a separate thread the pics I took...I can't find my notes on the attributions though Best regards, Emanuel

15th August 2007, 08:47 PM	#8
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Haha it seems that this kit has been sold before and it has a history in the collectors' world and Bram Stocker fans http://infocult.typepad.com/dracula/...ekilling_.html http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting This time around it went for 200$ more