Bad feeling...

Dajak · 3rd August 2007, 12:23 PM

Yes Ariel I agree with Henk .

I'm afraid you made a remark without foundation.

Ben

Michael Blalock · 3rd August 2007, 02:26 PM

Well it is from Hermann Historica

http://www.hermann-historica.de/aukt...GB&db=A-50.txt

It seems a bit odd to me too. They are also trading on the Barakat Gallery name. There is none in Germany from what I have seen.

Dajak · 3rd August 2007, 03:24 PM

He did buy it to resell it nothing special with that .
Happends in the Usa also .

Ben

Henk · 3rd August 2007, 06:14 PM

Just as Ben said, it happends everywhere. It is bought for resell at Hermann Historica.
I saw some one buying a shamshir in a Dutch auction house. Next day I found the item on ebay. The guy bought it to make profit on the sword, knowing that he could sell it for much more than he bought it.
Nothing illegal and nothing special

ariel · 3rd August 2007, 08:37 PM

I sincerely hope all was kosher with this listing. If the seller got affronted, I apologize profusely and sincerely for the misunderstanding.

Having said that, I am still intrigued why would anyone put a $5,000 sword on e-bay using only 2 dinky pics from the auction house catalogue? Wasn't this sword in the seller's possession? Couldn't he make more pics to entice high-end customers? I must be very ignorant about sale techniques...

Michael Blalock · 3rd August 2007, 10:09 PM

Something is odd with this seller items.

Just ended: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=280137210834

This Sabean Bronze Votive Plaque has the exact same description, to the millimeter, as one from the real Barakat Gallery in LA, with a picture of a different plaque.

http://www.barakatgallery.com/Store/...emID/10241.htm

TVV · 3rd August 2007, 10:20 PM

Nothing wrong with flipping an item, but I personally would deffinitely ask the seller for some detailed pictures before I bid a significant amount of money on this shamshir. This is a good advice for almost all sellers on eBay, I guess, but in this case it will also provide me with a proof that the seller does have the item in question in his possession.
I also do not quite understand why the bidding needed to be private, since eBay automatically hides IDs when a bid exceeds $200, which I am sure is far less than what a shamshir like this one could fetch. Finally, the seller found it necessary to change his ID recently, which certainly does not help gaining my trust. I agree with Ariel the whole auction, ended earlier, leaves a bit of a bad taste. Maybe I am just paranoid.

katana · 3rd August 2007, 10:26 PM

My concern would be the payment options, in this case cheque or Money order/Cashiers check . Neither method gives you any insurance AFAIK (in the case of fraud etc.) and I would imagine legal action would be difficult when buyer and seller are in differing countries. Also there would be the cost of taking such action which would have to be personally funded.

3rd August 2007, 10:20 PM	#7
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,664	Nothing wrong with flipping an item, but I personally would deffinitely ask the seller for some detailed pictures before I bid a significant amount of money on this shamshir. This is a good advice for almost all sellers on eBay, I guess, but in this case it will also provide me with a proof that the seller does have the item in question in his possession. I also do not quite understand why the bidding needed to be private, since eBay automatically hides IDs when a bid exceeds $200, which I am sure is far less than what a shamshir like this one could fetch. Finally, the seller found it necessary to change his ID recently, which certainly does not help gaining my trust. I agree with Ariel the whole auction, ended earlier, leaves a bit of a bad taste. Maybe I am just paranoid. Last edited by TVV; 3rd August 2007 at 10:21 PM. Reason: typos

3rd August 2007, 12:23 PM	#1
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Yes Ariel I agree with Henk . I'm afraid you made a remark without foundation. Ben

3rd August 2007, 02:26 PM	#2
Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	Well it is from Hermann Historica http://www.hermann-historica.de/aukt...GB&db=A-50.txt It seems a bit odd to me too. They are also trading on the Barakat Gallery name. There is none in Germany from what I have seen.

3rd August 2007, 03:24 PM	#3
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	He did buy it to resell it nothing special with that . Happends in the Usa also . Ben

3rd August 2007, 06:14 PM	#4
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Just as Ben said, it happends everywhere. It is bought for resell at Hermann Historica. I saw some one buying a shamshir in a Dutch auction house. Next day I found the item on ebay. The guy bought it to make profit on the sword, knowing that he could sell it for much more than he bought it. Nothing illegal and nothing special

3rd August 2007, 08:37 PM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I sincerely hope all was kosher with this listing. If the seller got affronted, I apologize profusely and sincerely for the misunderstanding. Having said that, I am still intrigued why would anyone put a $5,000 sword on e-bay using only 2 dinky pics from the auction house catalogue? Wasn't this sword in the seller's possession? Couldn't he make more pics to entice high-end customers? I must be very ignorant about sale techniques...

3rd August 2007, 10:09 PM	#6
Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	Something is odd with this seller items. Just ended: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=280137210834 This Sabean Bronze Votive Plaque has the exact same description, to the millimeter, as one from the real Barakat Gallery in LA, with a picture of a different plaque. http://www.barakatgallery.com/Store/...emID/10241.htm

3rd August 2007, 10:26 PM	#8
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	My concern would be the payment options, in this case cheque or Money order/Cashiers check . Neither method gives you any insurance AFAIK (in the case of fraud etc.) and I would imagine legal action would be difficult when buyer and seller are in differing countries. Also there would be the cost of taking such action which would have to be personally funded.