keris and spirit

HanaChu69 · 17th July 2007, 05:45 PM

Greetings,

I would like to highlight some points on the given comments. It’s cool to exchange views…

Pusaka – The analogy did not confuse me at all. If I place myself looking at the views from your angle, I’m able to relate per se.

Bram & Pak Alan – I have the same opinion with both of you. It could be that our mind set (school of thoughts) and “olah rasa” inner/spiritual feeling tells us differently. That’s the reason why our view on Ying and Yang totally doesn’t relate with the Javanese keris culture.

Penangsang – You are right, in principle; they are almost similar but different context. In Chinese philosophy, metal element is applicable to human being generically used in Geomancy; Chinese Astrology and Feng Shui. In Javanese keris philosophy, it is specifically termed to the spirit of the keris such as “Kiai Setan Kober” etc.

This is my perception. Do feel free to comment.

Sincerely,
Hana

A. G. Maisey · 17th July 2007, 11:49 PM

Thanks for your response, Pusaka.

I was afraid that you may have misunderstood the direction and intent of my comments, as I used the word "element" to refer to an element of a philosophy, and then you used the word "element" to refer to physical, rather than abstract concepts.

I now understand that you were making a broad ranging comment on universal cultural values.

Thank you

17th July 2007, 05:45 PM	#1
HanaChu69 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 29	Greetings, I would like to highlight some points on the given comments. It’s cool to exchange views… Pusaka – The analogy did not confuse me at all. If I place myself looking at the views from your angle, I’m able to relate per se. Bram & Pak Alan – I have the same opinion with both of you. It could be that our mind set (school of thoughts) and “olah rasa” inner/spiritual feeling tells us differently. That’s the reason why our view on Ying and Yang totally doesn’t relate with the Javanese keris culture. Penangsang – You are right, in principle; they are almost similar but different context. In Chinese philosophy, metal element is applicable to human being generically used in Geomancy; Chinese Astrology and Feng Shui. In Javanese keris philosophy, it is specifically termed to the spirit of the keris such as “Kiai Setan Kober” etc. This is my perception. Do feel free to comment. Sincerely, Hana Last edited by HanaChu69; 17th July 2007 at 06:15 PM.

17th July 2007, 11:49 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,056	Thanks for your response, Pusaka. I was afraid that you may have misunderstood the direction and intent of my comments, as I used the word "element" to refer to an element of a philosophy, and then you used the word "element" to refer to physical, rather than abstract concepts. I now understand that you were making a broad ranging comment on universal cultural values. Thank you