Help with yatagans' inscriptions

TVV · 15th July 2007, 09:36 PM

They are all Balkan, collected in Bulgaria, with details such as villages where these were found available for a few of them. Of course, they could have travelled from one place to another in the past, but I Believe they were all made in the Balkans. Based on examples, walrus hilted yatagans are generally from the Western Balkans, such as Bosnia, and in the Eastern Balkans the hilts are mostly from dark horn - predominantly cow or buffalo, although on one of the examples pictured, which has the smallest ears, the hilt is made of rhino horn.

Flavio · 15th July 2007, 09:49 PM

Hello Teodor, could you post some pictures of the rhino horn handle? Thank you

TVV · 15th July 2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Flavio

Hello Teodor, could you post some pictures of the rhino horn handle? Thank you

This is the only picture I currently have.

Rick · 16th July 2007, 02:08 AM

All those blades are of Turkish Ribbon pattern; are they not ?

TVV · 16th July 2007, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

All those blades are of Turkish Ribbon pattern; are they not ?

Yes Rick, they are, or at least this is what they appear to be to my eye based on the pictures. It appears this pattern was quite popular on yatagans, which is not so surprising.
Regards,
Teodor

TVV · 15th August 2007, 04:59 PM

With the hope of bumping this thread up in search of translations, here are two Kamas from the Caucasus, also found in Bulgaria, for comments. One of them has an inscription, and the other one a maker's mark with some writing inside. Can anyone read and translate them?
Thanks,
Teodor

rand · 16th August 2007, 05:18 PM

There is a Russian Book with quite a few inscriptions on yataghans translated, but you need to speak Russian. There are also French articles of yataghan translations. I have heard a couple of the Russian book may be printed in English soon.

Always enjoy seeing a coretwist balde...

rand

Zifir · 13th December 2007, 10:28 PM

This one is "tevekkeltüa'l-llah" [I put my trust on Allah]
The date is 1265 hejira = 1848-1849

The picture of the stamp is too small for me to make out the name, but it's clearly amel-e .......(Melik maybe). A bigger picture might help.

15th August 2007, 04:59 PM	#6
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,664	With the hope of bumping this thread up in search of translations, here are two Kamas from the Caucasus, also found in Bulgaria, for comments. One of them has an inscription, and the other one a maker's mark with some writing inside. Can anyone read and translate them? Thanks, Teodor Attached Images

16th August 2007, 05:18 PM	#7
rand Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 539	Book with inscriptions There is a Russian Book with quite a few inscriptions on yataghans translated, but you need to speak Russian. There are also French articles of yataghan translations. I have heard a couple of the Russian book may be printed in English soon. Always enjoy seeing a coretwist balde... rand

13th December 2007, 10:28 PM	#8
Zifir Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Istanbul Posts: 228	This one is "tevekkeltüa'l-llah" [I put my trust on Allah] The date is 1265 hejira = 1848-1849 The picture of the stamp is too small for me to make out the name, but it's clearly amel-e .......(Melik maybe). A bigger picture might help. Attached Images

15th July 2007, 09:36 PM	#1
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,664	They are all Balkan, collected in Bulgaria, with details such as villages where these were found available for a few of them. Of course, they could have travelled from one place to another in the past, but I Believe they were all made in the Balkans. Based on examples, walrus hilted yatagans are generally from the Western Balkans, such as Bosnia, and in the Eastern Balkans the hilts are mostly from dark horn - predominantly cow or buffalo, although on one of the examples pictured, which has the smallest ears, the hilt is made of rhino horn.

15th July 2007, 09:49 PM	#2
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hello Teodor, could you post some pictures of the rhino horn handle? Thank you

16th July 2007, 02:08 AM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	All those blades are of Turkish Ribbon pattern; are they not ?