Nimcha: opinions and translations?

Valjhun · 20th June 2007, 06:57 PM

Yes, I agree. Trully a very nice piece you have. I vote for Morocco.

I would suggest that it is maybe a composite piece. I mean that the crossguard was not initially made for that precise sword. I can't immagine the original master would put toghether koftgari (or goldplating whatever) and enammel techique. Nevertheless very nice piece.

Is the pommel cap also enammeled? Can you post a photo?

I also think that the blade is not european.

The hilt does look like rhino to me. Try to do a close up shot with flash.

Tatyana Dianova · 20th June 2007, 08:11 PM

Thanks everybody for interesting replies!

I have found similar nimcha example on this forum, belonging to RSWORD, and this sword also has gold koftgari AND enamel decorations!
Please take a look:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=128

I also have made a requested pictures:

Tim Simmons · 20th June 2007, 08:17 PM

The enamel work reminds me of work from the Kabilye . I will try and show what mean.

Battara · 20th June 2007, 08:23 PM

When RSword brought his piece over to my place, I tested the gold mounts and determined that they were over 10k and heavey!

Congratulations on your piece - I'm envious - not many around.

ErnestoJuan · 23rd June 2007, 01:10 PM

Now that is a beautiful piece of art. Stunning to say the least.
I solely collect koumiyas but I will gladly make an exception in case you would like to sell it.

( big sigh..............)

Ernst

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 4th September 2016, 03:26 PM

Clearly Moroccan. The three big signals are the stud on top of the pommel and the squared off right angle bend in the knuckle guard, thirdly is the upright way the pommel sits as opposed to pointing down slightly ....as does the Zanzibari variant...Your Nimcha has the unusual addition of a two prong guard that I see only rarely. There is another two pronger at http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...9&page=2&pp=30

ariel · 4th September 2016, 06:40 PM

I think ( word of caution!) that there is a date on the spine:12( for sure) and then ....58 (???)

20th June 2007, 08:11 PM	#2
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 737	Thanks everybody for interesting replies! I have found similar nimcha example on this forum, belonging to RSWORD, and this sword also has gold koftgari AND enamel decorations! Please take a look: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=128 I also have made a requested pictures: Attached Images

4th September 2016, 03:26 PM	#6
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Clearly Moroccan. The three big signals are the stud on top of the pommel and the squared off right angle bend in the knuckle guard, thirdly is the upright way the pommel sits as opposed to pointing down slightly ....as does the Zanzibari variant...Your Nimcha has the unusual addition of a two prong guard that I see only rarely. There is another two pronger at http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...9&page=2&pp=30 Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 4th September 2016 at 03:51 PM.

20th June 2007, 06:57 PM	#1
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	Yes, I agree. Trully a very nice piece you have. I vote for Morocco. I would suggest that it is maybe a composite piece. I mean that the crossguard was not initially made for that precise sword. I can't immagine the original master would put toghether koftgari (or goldplating whatever) and enammel techique. Nevertheless very nice piece. Is the pommel cap also enammeled? Can you post a photo? I also think that the blade is not european. The hilt does look like rhino to me. Try to do a close up shot with flash.

20th June 2007, 08:17 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	The enamel work reminds me of work from the Kabilye . I will try and show what mean.

20th June 2007, 08:23 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,308	When RSword brought his piece over to my place, I tested the gold mounts and determined that they were over 10k and heavey! Congratulations on your piece - I'm envious - not many around.

23rd June 2007, 01:10 PM	#5
ErnestoJuan Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europa Posts: 60	Now that is a beautiful piece of art. Stunning to say the least. I solely collect koumiyas but I will gladly make an exception in case you would like to sell it. ( big sigh..............) Ernst

4th September 2016, 06:40 PM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I think ( word of caution!) that there is a date on the spine:12( for sure) and then ....58 (???)