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21st May 2007, 12:32 AM | #1 |
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Pak Boedhi, seldom do I read anything about keris with which I am in total agreement.
I endorse your comments completely. |
21st May 2007, 08:42 AM | #2 |
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Wow,
Interesting discussion. Thanks Alan, David, Raden, Shahrial and all.. Go ahead. Still have no idea yet... |
21st May 2007, 01:32 PM | #3 |
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hi Kerislovers,
From now, I realize how really difficult to patent a thing (especially a thing likes keris). If patenting is considered as "impossible" action, I would like to highlight the idea beneath.... (recognition, champaign, recording). Anymean can use for it, sure, including this forum. Dik Boedhi, how wonderful your explanation. yupe, too many problems/difficulties. lets go along the edge. Usmen |
21st May 2007, 03:22 PM | #4 |
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Oops,
Don't forget, Raden... to post your "urubing damar"... |
21st May 2007, 10:11 PM | #5 |
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Gonjo,
I promise to send it. I apologize if there will be delayed email sending. This morning, I got information that Indonesian Minister of Finance and Governor of Central Bank would visit Senegal started on next Sunday. Because of that, I forgot to take picture Urubing Damar before leaving home. Now, I am still in the office. So this is my new scenario. I will take picture this late evening and upload by tomorrow afternoon (in the morning, there will be a meeting). Keris description (based on my sense): urubing damar, sepang, mojopahit, kelengan. Tomorrow, I would like to ask (demand ) your opinion about it. Usmen |
22nd May 2007, 12:55 AM | #6 |
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Gonjo,
I have taken pictures. Hope I can post it tomorrow. Now, it is 23.45. Time to go to bed. Perhaps, the picture quality is not as good as if taken at noon because of the flash effect. c u tomorrow, Usmen |
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Quote:
here, I post "urubing dilah" I request your comments Usmen |
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22nd May 2007, 11:22 AM | #8 |
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Gonjo,
lanjutan |
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lanjutan
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Your pusakas, both are old. Noting the style, (although not knowing the iron or the blade), your "urubing dilah" or "urubing damar" (the flame?) supposed to be Majapahit's style -- thinner than Mataram style. The keris' sheath, certainly is a type or an "iras" (one piece of wood). I suppose, tayuman wood (a kind of bush wood, I will search the name in Latin, later). The ukiran or handle (hilt -- according to David) is maybe "yudowinatan style" (Mas Boedi may correct me if I'm wrong), from "kemuning werut" wood (I will search the Latin word later). Your tombak, (I suppose) also from Majapahit era. (probable the dhapur is "sigar jantung" or "a piece of heart" -- not correct English word maybe). The tombak sheath is maybe from cendana wood or sandal-wood. The "methuk" of tombak (I don't know the English word), ornamented with "kinatah sultan agungan" (special ornament from Sultan Agung era, 16th century). From the form of your pusakas, I guess they were (your family's) heritage.. Please, forgive me Raden, if I'm wrong... |
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23rd May 2007, 04:58 AM | #11 |
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Sepang Luk by Sukamdi
Raden and All,
This is the "sepang luk" that was made by Sukamdi. Really, the material is a very very broken "sedayu" keris blade, reforged, and than reshaped like this. Formally a straight keris, very badly broken. Sukamdi also made the ganja, (ganjawulung type) with a ganja wilut (double curved). The ganja was made from other black iron. Such ganja called by common Javanese as "ganja susulan", or ganja which is made in the later time.. The hilt, is a gading hilt, Yogyakartanese and also the sheath. The scabbard (pendhok) is silver, and was made and crafted in Kota Gede, Yogyakarta. But the hilt was specially made by one of the best Yogyakartanese hilt carver for this time being, by Kamijo or more known as Gatot.. |
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