Did the English make katars?

[ausjulius]

i have seen golock and parang blades with englsh marks, the blades appeared to be i drop forged , . and i of high qaluity, i still nhave one some blace a thick quite cuvy parang made by taylor eye witness. about about 1,3 cm thick at the begining of the balde and then tapering out fast
good steel to, very well made,

i have never seel a english made kris..

i suspect some of the katas ive encountered have had blade s not of indian make, but ive not observed a stamp as of yet,
i dont know of the position of the kata, as i have encountered many many old katas that were clearly made for war, not later made ones, so i suspect that they were rather a common item indeed, atleast there is asmany katas seen as.. koras or far more i would think,
i suspect that they were infact a common arm, but they must have been also used as some for of rank , just pruely becuase of the large amounts of hughly decorated ones to be found

[spiral]

The 19th century English kukris Ive seen were made for private purchase by officers, whether Gurkha or other units, not issued to the enlisted man.{& wealthy colonial & Mararajah types of course.}

In early WW1 kukris were made in Sheffield {usualy inspected at Enfield though.} for the inlisted man, but at that time it would have been quicker to resupply Gurkhas in Belgium & France & possibly the Balkans, Egypt & Palastine from England than it would be from India. I doubt if many Katar were used by British army at this time?

I dont rule out any 19th century batches of kukri made for a particular inlisted men in Gurkha units but have never seen or heard of such items amongst the kukri collecters I know. Has anyone any evidence of any?

Sheffield firms including both Rodgers & Beal in particular exploited the Colonial markets in the 19th cenutry but they were all quite fancy items from what I have seen..

I understand from a reliable source there is an Ivory handled Kris at cutlers hall in Sheffield made by Joseph Beal but I havent seen it.

If katars were made in England cutlers hall would probably know if they were made in Sheffield. I have never heard of such an item. {not that that means much.}


Spiral

[Rick]

Originally Posted by spiral

I understand from a reliable source there is an Ivory handled Kris at cutlers hall in Sheffield made by Joseph Beal but I havent seen it.Spiral

Ahem ...
An urgent announcement

Paging some good hearted bloke with a camera to go 'round and take pictures of said kris.

Thank you.

<end announcement>

Had to get that in.

[ausjulius]

yeah seems the brits were making just about everything , i just now recall seeing masi swords and spears that were british made :O.. weird,


i wounder if they ever tryed to sell the japanese katana blades :P