Stone club.

Tim Simmons · 26th March 2007, 07:11 PM

Yes I kept looking at flint while walking the dogs. I guess flint is flint. Flint was as mentioned earlier a trade commodity. All a can say to everyone is wait untill i get back from the museum. in the meantime I shall upload pictures of other this in the same line, some are made of slate and again I think slate is slate

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Tim Simmons · 26th March 2007, 07:23 PM

I want this one. I think this is made of two types of wood like some African throwing clubs. The halft is very similar but not of the same construction, but I have more.

These charming ladies have slate dress clubs. I have more.

More to come.

I could go on uploading picture untill tomorrow so there really is not much point. I was completely unaware that flint was only found in England

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fearn · 27th March 2007, 05:46 AM

Hi Tim,

Neat pics, but I think you may be mistaken about the materials in the first one: I'd guess it's a stone-headed club, not wood-headed:

Pic from the web

The axes are from the Jimi Valley, and Sir David Attenborough of all people, describes them being made at a place called Menjim in the 1950's. The book is called Journeys to the Past, first published in 1959.

Flint is just a form of cryptocrystalline silicon, aka chert. It's pretty common in England, France, and Belgium, but cryptocrystalline quartz is found all over the world. Check out the Wikipedia article for some more info, although it's incomplete.

inveterate · 28th March 2007, 12:56 AM

Tim, Fearn, All three clubs are Stone heads. Rod

fearn · 28th March 2007, 05:33 AM

You're right, Inveterate, although the bottom two are technically axes with wooden counterweights (the back blade) covered with woven rattan. Those stone axes are mostly abandoned to ceremonial use, now that steel axes are available.

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inveterate · 28th March 2007, 05:50 AM

Fearn, Yes most commonly from the Mt Hagen area. Tim , have now had the opportunity to go through 2 extensive libraries on Oceanic and Aboriginal Artifacts and can find nothing like your club, Am wondering could it be European or African? Cheers Rod

Tim Simmons · 28th March 2007, 07:56 AM

I will try to get into town this April. I do not think it is anything other than Melanesian or Micronesian. Look at sago pounders and adze from these regions. Maybe we only need to wait a week or so, all depends on how much work I have to do.

26th March 2007, 07:23 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,890	I want this one. I think this is made of two types of wood like some African throwing clubs. The halft is very similar but not of the same construction, but I have more. These charming ladies have slate dress clubs. I have more. More to come. I could go on uploading picture untill tomorrow so there really is not much point. I was completely unaware that flint was only found in England . Last edited by Tim Simmons; 26th March 2007 at 07:50 PM.

26th March 2007, 07:11 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,890	Yes I kept looking at flint while walking the dogs. I guess flint is flint. Flint was as mentioned earlier a trade commodity. All a can say to everyone is wait untill i get back from the museum. in the meantime I shall upload pictures of other this in the same line, some are made of slate and again I think slate is slate .

27th March 2007, 05:46 AM	#3
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Hi Tim, Neat pics, but I think you may be mistaken about the materials in the first one: I'd guess it's a stone-headed club, not wood-headed: Pic from the web The axes are from the Jimi Valley, and Sir David Attenborough of all people, describes them being made at a place called Menjim in the 1950's. The book is called Journeys to the Past, first published in 1959. Flint is just a form of cryptocrystalline silicon, aka chert. It's pretty common in England, France, and Belgium, but cryptocrystalline quartz is found all over the world. Check out the Wikipedia article for some more info, although it's incomplete.

28th March 2007, 12:56 AM	#4
inveterate Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 58	Tim, Fearn, All three clubs are Stone heads. Rod

28th March 2007, 05:33 AM	#5
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	You're right, Inveterate, although the bottom two are technically axes with wooden counterweights (the back blade) covered with woven rattan. Those stone axes are mostly abandoned to ceremonial use, now that steel axes are available. F

28th March 2007, 05:50 AM	#6
inveterate Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 58	Fearn, Yes most commonly from the Mt Hagen area. Tim , have now had the opportunity to go through 2 extensive libraries on Oceanic and Aboriginal Artifacts and can find nothing like your club, Am wondering could it be European or African? Cheers Rod

28th March 2007, 07:56 AM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,890	I will try to get into town this April. I do not think it is anything other than Melanesian or Micronesian. Look at sago pounders and adze from these regions. Maybe we only need to wait a week or so, all depends on how much work I have to do.