New Katars

CollectingNewbie · 24th March 2007, 06:59 AM

Im not too sure what sparked the bug in me Jens, but I have had quite a few katars in my collection, and I just am captivated with the many different types, sizes, shapes, and art work put into each individual peice. Theres just so many variations that turn these peices of steel into works of art. Thanks once again for the info, I am going to start picking up more litature on the subject of katars as I am now focusing on them. And here are the rest of my katars, all cleaned minus 4 that I have not had time to clean.

RSWORD · 24th March 2007, 03:03 PM

Now that you have cleaned up the blades I would suggest reading up on the various posts about etching because certainly some of your blades are wootz and would come out nicely with an etch.

CollectingNewbie · 31st May 2007, 07:23 AM

Well Ive finally had time between school and work to clean up my three newest blades and get a family shot in of them all. Remember it took quite a while to get these guys cleaned up so please try not to drool too much

and in case your wondering the ruler in the picture is only 12 inches long.

ariel · 31st May 2007, 03:00 PM

Katar is usually viewed as a purely stabbing weapon, very often with a reinforced point for mail-piercing.
However, we see many katars with blades made out of European swords and some shown here, including the longest one, are just an example.
The inherently thin European blades were shortened and re-configured to the degree that the fullers were running off the point. They certainly were not reinforced to penetrate mail and were likely quite bendable even with modest pressure. Their edges, however, were carefully sharpened.
Thus, they were the antithesis of what the classic description of Katars proclaimed: not stabbers but slashers.

beoram · 1st June 2007, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

Katar is usually viewed as a purely stabbing weapon, very often with a reinforced point for mail-piercing.
However, we see many katars with blades made out of European swords and some shown here, including the longest one, are just an example.
The inherently thin European blades were shortened and re-configured to the degree that the fullers were running off the point. They certainly were not reinforced to penetrate mail and were likely quite bendable even with modest pressure. Their edges, however, were carefully sharpened.
Thus, they were the antithesis of what the classic description of Katars proclaimed: not stabbers but slashers.

Interesting. So are katars very well adapted to slashing? Do the earliest katars appear to be designed for stabbing or slashing?

Andrew · 1st June 2007, 02:04 PM

I would say some katars are well suited for slashing. Just like some katars are well suited for punching through armour.

Battara · 1st June 2007, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew

I would say some katars are well suited for slashing. Just like some katars are well suited for punching through armour.

Sure does add a new meaning to the "punch line"

(sorry....guess I'm getting "punchy"

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24th March 2007, 06:59 AM	#1
CollectingNewbie Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 160	Im not too sure what sparked the bug in me Jens, but I have had quite a few katars in my collection, and I just am captivated with the many different types, sizes, shapes, and art work put into each individual peice. Theres just so many variations that turn these peices of steel into works of art. Thanks once again for the info, I am going to start picking up more litature on the subject of katars as I am now focusing on them. And here are the rest of my katars, all cleaned minus 4 that I have not had time to clean. Attached Images

31st May 2007, 07:23 AM	#3
CollectingNewbie Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 160	. Well Ive finally had time between school and work to clean up my three newest blades and get a family shot in of them all. Remember it took quite a while to get these guys cleaned up so please try not to drool too much and in case your wondering the ruler in the picture is only 12 inches long. Attached Images

24th March 2007, 03:03 PM	#2
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,087	Now that you have cleaned up the blades I would suggest reading up on the various posts about etching because certainly some of your blades are wootz and would come out nicely with an etch.

31st May 2007, 03:00 PM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Katar is usually viewed as a purely stabbing weapon, very often with a reinforced point for mail-piercing. However, we see many katars with blades made out of European swords and some shown here, including the longest one, are just an example. The inherently thin European blades were shortened and re-configured to the degree that the fullers were running off the point. They certainly were not reinforced to penetrate mail and were likely quite bendable even with modest pressure. Their edges, however, were carefully sharpened. Thus, they were the antithesis of what the classic description of Katars proclaimed: not stabbers but slashers.

1st June 2007, 02:04 PM	#6
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	I would say some katars are well suited for slashing. Just like some katars are well suited for punching through armour.