new kindjal

galvano · 19th March 2007, 07:25 PM

many thanks ariel (excuse my english)
galvano

Yannis · 20th March 2007, 12:07 PM

The metal band that connects throat and tip of the scabbard was common to Balkan kindjals. Also the decoration is similar to early 20th century weapons from the area. It could be from what is today Greece, Bulgaria, FYROM and that days Ottoman Macedonia. The blade looks earlier and from other origin

ariel · 20th March 2007, 04:07 PM

The same feature, ie connecting band, can be seen on authentic Caucasian Kindjals as well.
I can see your point about the decoration, but it is so bloody meager that I would hesitate pinpointing the exact region.
Can we agree on "Ottoman"?

Yannis · 21st March 2007, 11:01 AM

Ottoman is fine

Do you agree that it is around 1900? And probably the blade earlier?

ariel · 21st March 2007, 01:24 PM

Isn't id dated " 235"? Likely, 1235 H, ie 1819 Gregorian

Battara · 21st March 2007, 07:10 PM

I agree that the blade is older. Some of the work on the mounts do look newer, done on white metal (nickel silver) from the looks of it.

galvano · 21st March 2007, 08:19 PM

a true police investigation.

Thank you for your assistance
galvano

19th March 2007, 07:25 PM	#1
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 178	kindjal many thanks ariel (excuse my english) galvano

21st March 2007, 08:19 PM	#7
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 178	investigation a true police investigation. Thank you for your assistance galvano

20th March 2007, 12:07 PM	#2
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	The metal band that connects throat and tip of the scabbard was common to Balkan kindjals. Also the decoration is similar to early 20th century weapons from the area. It could be from what is today Greece, Bulgaria, FYROM and that days Ottoman Macedonia. The blade looks earlier and from other origin

20th March 2007, 04:07 PM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	The same feature, ie connecting band, can be seen on authentic Caucasian Kindjals as well. I can see your point about the decoration, but it is so bloody meager that I would hesitate pinpointing the exact region. Can we agree on "Ottoman"?

21st March 2007, 11:01 AM	#4
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	Ottoman is fine Do you agree that it is around 1900? And probably the blade earlier?

21st March 2007, 01:24 PM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Isn't id dated " 235"? Likely, 1235 H, ie 1819 Gregorian

21st March 2007, 07:10 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,308	I agree that the blade is older. Some of the work on the mounts do look newer, done on white metal (nickel silver) from the looks of it.