Man with a dha ?

Mark · 12th March 2007, 06:34 PM

Yes, I have heard of Hiram Cox (he was Symes' successor as envoy to the Court of Ava - moved to Amarapura at the time of his visit). I missed his book on the Cornell site. I love that site.

~Alaung_Hpaya~ · 13th March 2007, 07:28 PM

I've done some research and indeed Thado Thiri Min Hla Ye Khaung is a title of a prince .

Thado means valour
Thiri means splendour ( same as Siri in Thai and Sri in Sri Lanka )

Both the above are Burmanised Pali words . I believe Thado Min refers to a senior prince : one of 18 allowed during the last dynasty of Konbaung.

Min means king / ruler
Hla means fair/ beautiful
Ye means brave / daring

These are Burmese words.

Not sure about Khaung ( can you show me a scan so that I can see which intonation is used ? )

Mark · 13th March 2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Alaung_Hpaya~

I've done some research and indeed Thado Thiri Min Hla Ye Khaung is a title of a prince .

Thado means valour
Thiri means splendour ( same as Siri in Thai and Sri in Sri Lanka )

Both the above are Burmanised Pali words . I believe Thado Min refers to a senior prince : one of 18 allowed during the last dynasty of Konbaung.

Min means king / ruler
Hla means fair/ beautiful
Ye means brave / daring

These are Burmese words.

Not sure about Khaung ( can you show me a scan so that I can see which intonation is used ? )

Wow. That could mean one of two things, either I have the dha of a very important man, or the inscription is an "embellishment." Given that the blade itself bears a more recent date, and that the plaque with the "Thado Thiri" inscription is affixed to the scabbard, I am leaning toward the second possibility, frankly. My web site seems to be down, but I will pull a photo of the inscription from my hard drive and post it later. One thing I noticed yesterday is that the words "Maung Ba" clearly are inscribed (more fluid in form), while the letters of the "Thado Thiri" dedication appear to be stamped in. More evidence of a later embellishment, perhaps.

Mark · 14th March 2007, 04:06 PM

Here are the two dated texts, the first on the blade, the second on the scabbard.

~Alaung_Hpaya~ · 15th March 2007, 04:25 PM

3 , Than Ku hta-na paing _ Kyone Kyone Kya ywa _ Thu-gyi _ Maung Kyi Nyo ko _ 1919 khu hnit a twin ya za _ wat bet ko ku nyi saung ywet tha hpwint suu pay the

Than Ku district _ Kyone Kyone Kya village _ Head _ Maung Kyi Nyo _ 1919 during the year _ for helping against ? attack ??_ given this prize / award

" This award is presented to Maung Kyi Nyo the village head of Kyone Kyone Kya village in Than Ku district in the year 1919 for helping against ? attack "

Thado Thadi / Thiri Min Hla Ye khaung let thone saung dha _ 1160 khu hnit

The sword that is always worn / used by Thado Thiri Min Hla Ye Khaung _ in the year 1160

I think Ye Khaung is the name part with Thado Thiri Min Hla being the title .

14th March 2007, 04:06 PM	#4
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	Here are the two dated texts, the first on the blade, the second on the scabbard. Attached Images

12th March 2007, 06:34 PM	#1
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	Yes, I have heard of Hiram Cox (he was Symes' successor as envoy to the Court of Ava - moved to Amarapura at the time of his visit). I missed his book on the Cornell site. I love that site.

13th March 2007, 07:28 PM	#2
~Alaung_Hpaya~ Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 65	I've done some research and indeed Thado Thiri Min Hla Ye Khaung is a title of a prince . Thado means valour Thiri means splendour ( same as Siri in Thai and Sri in Sri Lanka ) Both the above are Burmanised Pali words . I believe Thado Min refers to a senior prince : one of 18 allowed during the last dynasty of Konbaung. Min means king / ruler Hla means fair/ beautiful Ye means brave / daring These are Burmese words. Not sure about Khaung ( can you show me a scan so that I can see which intonation is used ? )

15th March 2007, 04:25 PM	#5
~Alaung_Hpaya~ Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 65	3 , Than Ku hta-na paing _ Kyone Kyone Kya ywa _ Thu-gyi _ Maung Kyi Nyo ko _ 1919 khu hnit a twin ya za _ wat bet ko ku nyi saung ywet tha hpwint suu pay the Than Ku district _ Kyone Kyone Kya village _ Head _ Maung Kyi Nyo _ 1919 during the year _ for helping against ? attack ??_ given this prize / award " This award is presented to Maung Kyi Nyo the village head of Kyone Kyone Kya village in Than Ku district in the year 1919 for helping against ? attack " Thado Thadi / Thiri Min Hla Ye khaung let thone saung dha _ 1160 khu hnit The sword that is always worn / used by Thado Thiri Min Hla Ye Khaung _ in the year 1160 I think Ye Khaung is the name part with Thado Thiri Min Hla being the title .