Good news /bad news Tulwar.

Pukka Bundook · 3rd March 2007, 03:45 AM

Ariel,
I'm pleased you think it looks better!
Up to now I haven't been intelligent enough to withstand a challenge like this,...May get smarter one day!

Jens,
Thank you for taking interest in the marks. Some idea of what they mean may come to light one day.
All very interesting!

ariel · 3rd March 2007, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pukka Bundook

Ariel,
I'm pleased you think it looks better!
Up to now I haven't been intelligent enough to withstand a challenge like this,...May get smarter one day!

Jens,
Thank you for taking interest in the marks. Some idea of what they mean may come to light one day.
All very interesting!

I never thought it would look that good. it was a priceless experience for you and a lesson for me.
And, of course, the blade finally got what it deserved.
Again, my hat is off to you!

Pukka Bundook · 3rd March 2007, 02:32 PM

Ariel,
I couldn't agree more, ....about it being a priceless experience!
After all, how often can we mess about with an old blade without damaging it??
Really was a wondeful opportunity.

When I get done with this, then there is the question of the scabbard!!
Half upper wood is missing, but midle carrier and long metal cover on lower half intact.
Will be asking for input on wether to fix, leave alone, make new one, or whatever,....but not under this heading!
Thank you again for your kind words,

Richard.

Jens Nordlunde · 3rd March 2007, 04:33 PM

If the scabbard belongs to the blade, and you say it does, then I see no reason why you cant show it here.
When you cleaned the blade, you removed the hilt, was the reason that it would be easier to clean the blade, or someting else?
In your mail #3 second picture it is easy to see that there is a little square plate nailed to the square of the hilt. Usually, if there is anything, it is a little silver flower nailed to the square, what is your little plate made of - iron?
Did the nail go through the blade?

Pukka Bundook · 4th March 2007, 02:12 AM

Jens,
Yes, The scabbard goes with this sword.
I will take some pictures and post them here as you suggest.

Re. the hilt, I removed it so I could clamp the blade down easier for the serious filing it required.
The little squares nailed to the square were very thin pieces of silver, and yes, the nail did go through the tang.
When I put the hilt back I thought of putting a little silver flower there.
Would this be wrong?
One of the little pieces of badly cut silver split when I was removing the nail.
The hilt may have been removed before when the broken knuckle-guard had been repaired in its working life.
Hopefully, I'll be able to post scabbard pics very soon!

Richard.

Jens Nordlunde · 4th March 2007, 10:18 AM

Richard,

I would put a silver flower where the plate was. It seems to me, that silver placed on the square of the hilt must have had a special meaning. If there is something, it is a silver flower with a diameter of 10-12 millimeters, and the fact that there was a silver square on yours could, like you write, mean that the hilt could have been taken off for some reason or other. They may have run out of silver flowers

, and used a little silver plate instead, but why a silver plate and not a little iron plate?

I know that someone on the forum has a tulwar with such a silver flower, but I don't remember where I have seen it – please show it and give the measures.

The blade seems to have a very long ricasso – how long is it?

Pukka Bundook · 4th March 2007, 01:40 PM

Jens,
Thank you for the suggestions re. the little silver flower.
It is a pity that we cannot find someone who remembers the reason for silver on the square!
Re. the ricasso, it is 3 3/4".......or about 96mm in length.

Best wishes,
R.

4th March 2007, 10:18 AM	#6
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Richard, I would put a silver flower where the plate was. It seems to me, that silver placed on the square of the hilt must have had a special meaning. If there is something, it is a silver flower with a diameter of 10-12 millimeters, and the fact that there was a silver square on yours could, like you write, mean that the hilt could have been taken off for some reason or other. They may have run out of silver flowers, and used a little silver plate instead, but why a silver plate and not a little iron plate? I know that someone on the forum has a tulwar with such a silver flower, but I don't remember where I have seen it – please show it and give the measures. The blade seems to have a very long ricasso – how long is it?

3rd March 2007, 03:45 AM	#1
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Ariel, I'm pleased you think it looks better! Up to now I haven't been intelligent enough to withstand a challenge like this,...May get smarter one day! Jens, Thank you for taking interest in the marks. Some idea of what they mean may come to light one day. All very interesting!

3rd March 2007, 02:32 PM	#3
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Ariel, I couldn't agree more, ....about it being a priceless experience! After all, how often can we mess about with an old blade without damaging it?? Really was a wondeful opportunity. When I get done with this, then there is the question of the scabbard!! Half upper wood is missing, but midle carrier and long metal cover on lower half intact. Will be asking for input on wether to fix, leave alone, make new one, or whatever,....but not under this heading! Thank you again for your kind words, Richard.

3rd March 2007, 04:33 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	If the scabbard belongs to the blade, and you say it does, then I see no reason why you cant show it here. When you cleaned the blade, you removed the hilt, was the reason that it would be easier to clean the blade, or someting else? In your mail #3 second picture it is easy to see that there is a little square plate nailed to the square of the hilt. Usually, if there is anything, it is a little silver flower nailed to the square, what is your little plate made of - iron? Did the nail go through the blade?

4th March 2007, 02:12 AM	#5
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Jens, Yes, The scabbard goes with this sword. I will take some pictures and post them here as you suggest. Re. the hilt, I removed it so I could clamp the blade down easier for the serious filing it required. The little squares nailed to the square were very thin pieces of silver, and yes, the nail did go through the tang. When I put the hilt back I thought of putting a little silver flower there. Would this be wrong? One of the little pieces of badly cut silver split when I was removing the nail. The hilt may have been removed before when the broken knuckle-guard had been repaired in its working life. Hopefully, I'll be able to post scabbard pics very soon! Richard.

4th March 2007, 01:40 PM	#7
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Jens, Thank you for the suggestions re. the little silver flower. It is a pity that we cannot find someone who remembers the reason for silver on the square! Re. the ricasso, it is 3 3/4".......or about 96mm in length. Best wishes, R.