KERIS WITH IVORY HILT

David · 22nd February 2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Alam Shah

Adni's classification of hilt forms had identified the hilt as Minangkbau, (based on Malay Art Gallery archives.)

"Ganja Iras" is a purpose-built piece. Where it was believed, with proper ritual, could be used to penetrate an 'invincible' warrior, (those that practices a kind of mystical 'warrior-magic').

Others have stated before that it is a short-cut, cost saving means... etc. However, in the Malay mystic world, it hold certain values.

Thanks Shahrial. Adni's assessment is what i based my first guess on.

This info on gonjo iras is very interesting to me. As you state, we have had this discussion before and i have never been quite satisfied with the answers.

If you have more information on the Malay mystical world view of these type of keris i would love to hear it.

Alam Shah · 23rd February 2007, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by David

This info on gonjo iras is very interesting to me. As you state, we have had this discussion before and i have never been quite satisfied with the answers.

If you have more information on the Malay mystical world view of these type of keris i would love to hear it.

Well, I'll let it rest. I'll suggest that more research be done to satisfy your interest in the topic of the Malay mystical world view.

rahman · 23rd February 2007, 02:49 AM

By the length of the blae and its form, it's a Bahari. It's quite rare for Bahari blades to come in ganja iras form, methinks.

David · 23rd February 2007, 03:02 AM

Rahman, could you please explain why you would classify this blade form as bahari?

David · 23rd February 2007, 03:28 AM

Here is a link to a thread that displays a rather extraordinary keris bahari:
http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001237.html
And i have attached another more standard example fro, Dominique's site. I don't see a similarity in form to the keris that started this thread. Am i missing something?

23rd February 2007, 03:28 AM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Here is a link to a thread that displays a rather extraordinary keris bahari: http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001237.html And i have attached another more standard example fro, Dominique's site. I don't see a similarity in form to the keris that started this thread. Am i missing something? Attached Images

23rd February 2007, 02:49 AM	#3
rahman Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 84	By the length of the blae and its form, it's a Bahari. It's quite rare for Bahari blades to come in ganja iras form, methinks.

23rd February 2007, 03:02 AM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Rahman, could you please explain why you would classify this blade form as bahari?