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David · 6th February 2007, 02:25 PM

I will take your statement one step further Amuk Murugul. You say "Everyone can believe what they like", but it is more that everyone does believe what they like. Belief is a very powerful thing which is key to shaping our own personal realities. And to a certain extent i believe that we each live within our own specific realities. Much of these personal realities overlap, but there will always be aspects of mine that don't work in yours and vice versa. I could discribe magickal events that have taken place in my life that most people would dismiss as fantasy. But as you say, "truth" CAN be stranger than fiction.

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Originally Posted by Dajak

Well there is an keris in the Netherlands that break down your car
This can be verified if it have to be

It is interesting that most if not all of the stories we have heard here in regards to powerful keris ("evil" or otherwise) have been second and third hand accounts. And the details of these accounts have been very vague. I wonder if anyone here has any personal stories they might wish to share. As for verification Ben, i am curious how you can verify this car story or any other in this realm of experience. I don't say this to dismiss these stories out of hand, but merely to point out that these are all part of various people's personal realities. I have serious doubts that anyone can back up any of these stories with empirical proof. That doesn't necessarily mean they aren't "true". If you can prove it i happen to know that a guy who calls himself The Amazing Randi has got a million dollar prize for you. James Randi is a stage magician and escape artist who is offerring the prize to anyone whop can prove metapyshical phenomenon.

Dajak · 6th February 2007, 02:53 PM

Hi David come to the Netherlands I will bring you to the owner you can try
see if it works I am like to see if something happends to your car you are driving than we now that the story s about this keris is true I don t gonna touch the keris but you and we will see if something happend

I was in Bali on vacation in june/july and met some one from Holland who breaks down the car after he did see the keris and had him in his hands

so let me now when you gonna visit en we take a look if something happend.

I like to now too

Ben

David · 6th February 2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dajak

Hi David come to the Netherlands I will bring you to the owner you can try
see if it works I am like to see if something happends to your car you are driving than we now that the story s about this keris is true I don t gonna touch the keris but you and we will see if something happend

I was in Bali on vacation in june/july and met some one from Holland who breaks down the car after he did see the keris and had him in his hands

so let me now when you gonna visit en we take a look if something happend.

I like to now too

Ben

That would be fun Ben...and i have been wanting to visit the Netherlands for a very long time. Don't know when i can swing it, but i will be sure to let you know.

Dajak · 6th February 2007, 07:22 PM

Ok you welcome any time and let make one thing clear I don t touch it
it will be you and we take an rental car

just to be sure

Ben

Rick · 6th February 2007, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dajak

Ok you welcome any time and let make one thing clear I don t touch it
it will be you and we take an rental car

just to be sure

Ben

Someone must have had one hell of a time getting this keris to the Netherlands from Indonesia ...

Trains and boats and planes ..

Dajak · 6th February 2007, 08:01 PM

The keris is pictured in an book

Ben

David · 6th February 2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Someone must have had one hell of a time getting this keris to the Netherlands from Indonesia ...

Trains and boats and planes ..

Maybe they walked.

A. G. Maisey · 6th February 2007, 08:56 PM

Well, I for one believe that story about a keris that can cause a car breakdown.

Its not only keris that can do this.

I used to own an umbrella that could cause my car to break down.

About 30 or so years ago I lived in an old stone house out at the end of a gravel road, it was about 3 miles to the nearest neighbour, and between my house and the tar road there were 3 or 4 creek crossings.

Nearly every time I left home and put the umbrella in the car, it would stop along the gravel road before I got to the tar. If that umbrella went in the car you could take an even money bet it would break down before I got to the tar, and especially if there was heavy rain, which I reckoned was just the evil spirit in the umbrella being particularly nasty, knowing I'd have to get out in the rain and spray WD 40 everywhere to get going again.

Anyway, when I shifted house, the evil umbrella got lost in moving, and you know what?

Never ever had a breakdown again.

Its not only keris that can have these evil and mischievious entities in them. I know from personal experience that umbrellas, and maybe other things can too.

6th February 2007, 02:53 PM	#2
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi David come to the Netherlands I will bring you to the owner you can try see if it works I am like to see if something happends to your car you are driving than we now that the story s about this keris is true I don t gonna touch the keris but you and we will see if something happend I was in Bali on vacation in june/july and met some one from Holland who breaks down the car after he did see the keris and had him in his hands so let me now when you gonna visit en we take a look if something happend. I like to now too Ben

6th February 2007, 07:22 PM	#4
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Ok you welcome any time and let make one thing clear I don t touch it it will be you and we take an rental car just to be sure Ben

6th February 2007, 08:01 PM	#6
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	The keris is pictured in an book Ben

6th February 2007, 08:56 PM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Well, I for one believe that story about a keris that can cause a car breakdown. Its not only keris that can do this. I used to own an umbrella that could cause my car to break down. About 30 or so years ago I lived in an old stone house out at the end of a gravel road, it was about 3 miles to the nearest neighbour, and between my house and the tar road there were 3 or 4 creek crossings. Nearly every time I left home and put the umbrella in the car, it would stop along the gravel road before I got to the tar. If that umbrella went in the car you could take an even money bet it would break down before I got to the tar, and especially if there was heavy rain, which I reckoned was just the evil spirit in the umbrella being particularly nasty, knowing I'd have to get out in the rain and spray WD 40 everywhere to get going again. Anyway, when I shifted house, the evil umbrella got lost in moving, and you know what? Never ever had a breakdown again. Its not only keris that can have these evil and mischievious entities in them. I know from personal experience that umbrellas, and maybe other things can too.