Cuacasian pride

Conogre · 20th February 2005, 04:54 AM

When I saw the close up of your wonderful sword, Yannis, the pattern jumped right out at me, very similar in style to this one, to the point that it's possible it was made in the same region?
I have another sword and a small knife that's similar, with the "feel" of the intricate detailing making me think that they, too, came from this region.
Personally, I'm awestruck by the skill of artistry, by far the best of anything that I've been priveleged to own.
Mike

ariel · 20th February 2005, 05:56 AM

Yannis,
Great one!
The only reason I am not dying of envy is because I have one with a locally made curved blade.
As to Conogre's shashka, I am not sure it is an old one: the decorations look like newly made Georgian weapons. Would be interesting to see the blade and, of course, markings if it has them.

Yannis · 20th February 2005, 09:08 AM

Jim
I was sure you would like it. Now I have companions for my shield (avatar) that you helped me identify few years ago. Since then I have read about khevsurs. This blade has few nicks from duelling. The Khevsurs used to duel with real swords for a lot of reasons (just for fun or as real fight between adults) usually Sundays in the middle of the village. But they could stop immediately if a woman wanted so!

Conogre
Interesting shashka but newly made. It is not cheap, but the hilt is wrong and the ornaments with “easy” style. If it was an old, with the technique of old masters, and all this ornamentation it could be priceless.

Ariel
I want to see your sword. Please!

Battara · 20th February 2005, 02:08 PM

Although I am not into this sort of thing, I must say nice puppy (woof!

).

Radu Transylvanicus · 20th February 2005, 11:13 PM

This Forum is a great resource (most times

) as I donnot recall the Khevsur sword info anywhere else but here, I am glad this is an en vogue subject as I am learning along, overcomming ignorance in the subject.
AMICI HUMANI GENERIS, thats what this bunch is !

And yes, Ariel, please swow us your sword ...

oh not that one, you know what we mean, the Khevsur one !

Conogre · 21st February 2005, 01:46 AM

Very good attempt at being tactful, Yannis, but truly no need as I obtained all three at extremely reasonable prices, bordering on cheap and fully agree that all are newer pieces, that couldn't even begin to compare with the status of yours (I was actually suprised to find the blades razor sharp, fully expecting the dull edges of most contemporary types).
What I was referring to was the materials and style of workmanship, highly unlike anything I've ever come across.
I was told that the most likely source was somewhere in Uzbekistan and was just wondering if your familiarity with the region would enable you to make a more definite identification as to origin, as in my extremely limited exposure, I've never seen this type of hilt decor.
In today's world of mass production I find it refreshing to know that this type of artistry is still being produced and not lost to time as in so many other cultures.
On my budget, I am thrilled to own even bottom rung quality pieces, if such a term can be used for what I consider to be extreme beauty far beyond most of what's produced in the west on suposedly superior weapons.
Mike

Rivkin · 21st February 2005, 02:25 AM

enamel is slightly resembling the buckharian types, but I would doubt the uzbek origion - may be modern Dagestan or Georgia.

But I'm not Jim/Ariel, I don't anything about shashkas, just pretend to

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20th February 2005, 04:54 AM	#1
Conogre Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 371	When I saw the close up of your wonderful sword, Yannis, the pattern jumped right out at me, very similar in style to this one, to the point that it's possible it was made in the same region? I have another sword and a small knife that's similar, with the "feel" of the intricate detailing making me think that they, too, came from this region. Personally, I'm awestruck by the skill of artistry, by far the best of anything that I've been priveleged to own. Mike Attached Images

20th February 2005, 05:56 AM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Yannis, Great one! The only reason I am not dying of envy is because I have one with a locally made curved blade. As to Conogre's shashka, I am not sure it is an old one: the decorations look like newly made Georgian weapons. Would be interesting to see the blade and, of course, markings if it has them.

20th February 2005, 09:08 AM	#3
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	Jim I was sure you would like it. Now I have companions for my shield (avatar) that you helped me identify few years ago. Since then I have read about khevsurs. This blade has few nicks from duelling. The Khevsurs used to duel with real swords for a lot of reasons (just for fun or as real fight between adults) usually Sundays in the middle of the village. But they could stop immediately if a woman wanted so! Conogre Interesting shashka but newly made. It is not cheap, but the hilt is wrong and the ornaments with “easy” style. If it was an old, with the technique of old masters, and all this ornamentation it could be priceless. Ariel I want to see your sword. Please!

20th February 2005, 02:08 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,320	Although I am not into this sort of thing, I must say nice puppy (woof! ).

20th February 2005, 11:13 PM	#5
Radu Transylvanicus Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 2008-2010 Bali, 1998-2008 USA Posts: 271	This Forum is a great resource (most times ) as I donnot recall the Khevsur sword info anywhere else but here, I am glad this is an en vogue subject as I am learning along, overcomming ignorance in the subject. AMICI HUMANI GENERIS, thats what this bunch is ! And yes, Ariel, please swow us your sword ... oh not that one, you know what we mean, the Khevsur one !

21st February 2005, 01:46 AM	#6
Conogre Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 371	Very good attempt at being tactful, Yannis, but truly no need as I obtained all three at extremely reasonable prices, bordering on cheap and fully agree that all are newer pieces, that couldn't even begin to compare with the status of yours (I was actually suprised to find the blades razor sharp, fully expecting the dull edges of most contemporary types). What I was referring to was the materials and style of workmanship, highly unlike anything I've ever come across. I was told that the most likely source was somewhere in Uzbekistan and was just wondering if your familiarity with the region would enable you to make a more definite identification as to origin, as in my extremely limited exposure, I've never seen this type of hilt decor. In today's world of mass production I find it refreshing to know that this type of artistry is still being produced and not lost to time as in so many other cultures. On my budget, I am thrilled to own even bottom rung quality pieces, if such a term can be used for what I consider to be extreme beauty far beyond most of what's produced in the west on suposedly superior weapons. Mike

21st February 2005, 02:25 AM	#7
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	enamel is slightly resembling the buckharian types, but I would doubt the uzbek origion - may be modern Dagestan or Georgia. But I'm not Jim/Ariel, I don't anything about shashkas, just pretend to .