nationalism

Emanuel · 7th January 2007, 10:25 PM

David, I also think you summarized it quite nicely. American accounts and photographs may present the cold facts about what weapons were used and how they were employed. The native population will know what the weapon was and what its intended purpose was.

As for perception of the kris, my own experience has been that nowadays any wavy/snaky blade is called a kris blade, and there is the misconception that it will cause greater damage in a stab than a straight blade because it stakes its way into the body. I found it hard to detract some people from this view. There is also a seller on ebay that claims the kris was known to be superior to Toledo swords...whatever that may mean

I do not know if the seller is Filipino/Indonesian or not but that's a big claim to make.

Emanuel

Emanuel · 7th January 2007, 10:28 PM

LabanTayo, are there any Filipino knives used as projectiles? If so, Wood's account could be understood as soldiers would group all the weird Filipino weapons as kris and barong.

Emanuel

LabanTayo · 7th January 2007, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manolo

LabanTayo, are there any Filipino knives used as projectiles? If so, Wood's account could be understood as soldiers would group all the weird Filipino weapons as kris and barong.

Emanuel

the only projectile weapons i know of in the philippines are the blow gun, slingshot and flip-flops.

Emanuel · 7th January 2007, 10:35 PM

"...INCOMIIIING...SHOE"

Were there any foreign observers at the time? Brits, Spaniards, Dutch and Asians were still active in the region. Are there no accounts from them? You could take them with a somewhat higher degree of impartiality no?

LabanTayo · 7th January 2007, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manolo

"...INCOMIIIING...SHOE"

Were there any foreign observers at the time? Brits, Spaniards, Dutch and Asians were still active in the region. Are there no accounts from them? You could take them with a somewhat higher degree of impartiality no?

As Gen. Wood reported, all Moros were exterminated. No live witnesses on their side.
I found somewhere on the net, where some of the marines present at that battle, had written letters home and some were published. they were not too fond of the tactics being used by wood. i am still trying to find it so i can post a link.

here it is:

http://www.boondocksnet.com/ai/ailtexts/soldiers.html

7th January 2007, 10:25 PM	#1
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	David, I also think you summarized it quite nicely. American accounts and photographs may present the cold facts about what weapons were used and how they were employed. The native population will know what the weapon was and what its intended purpose was. As for perception of the kris, my own experience has been that nowadays any wavy/snaky blade is called a kris blade, and there is the misconception that it will cause greater damage in a stab than a straight blade because it stakes its way into the body. I found it hard to detract some people from this view. There is also a seller on ebay that claims the kris was known to be superior to Toledo swords...whatever that may mean I do not know if the seller is Filipino/Indonesian or not but that's a big claim to make. Emanuel

7th January 2007, 10:28 PM	#2
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	LabanTayo, are there any Filipino knives used as projectiles? If so, Wood's account could be understood as soldiers would group all the weird Filipino weapons as kris and barong. Emanuel

7th January 2007, 10:35 PM	#4
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	"...INCOMIIIING...SHOE" Were there any foreign observers at the time? Brits, Spaniards, Dutch and Asians were still active in the region. Are there no accounts from them? You could take them with a somewhat higher degree of impartiality no?