Badek??

Maurice · 7th January 2007, 12:13 AM

Hi Alam Shah,

Thanks for your explanation.
I always keep on smiling.....

Thanks for sending the other link to the kujang attached on the spear.

greetings

Alam Shah · 7th January 2007, 07:56 AM

Maurice,

Here it is, my old simple kujang. I forgot I have one.

After looking at my kujang again, yours may not necessary be a tombak-tip.
Some kudi and kujang does have metuk-iras but are not tombak.

Alam Shah · 7th January 2007, 08:19 AM

If you're looking for Badek, here are some fine specimens.

VVV's Badek Collection

and 2 of my modest pieces.

1) Badek Bugis 2) Badek Bugis Sulawesi

Maurice · 7th January 2007, 08:42 AM

You have a nice collection Alam.

I saw you also like martial arts.
That's where my interests in indonesian weapons began.

Pangeran Datu · 22nd January 2007, 11:54 PM

Hi,

I hope you've managed to identify the item. In case you haven't, I'd just like to say that, IMHO, it is definitely not a kujang or kudi as generally recognised by the Sunda. Its form doesn't have the right 'flow'; it's too 'rigid' (even for a Badek Patani or a Badik). The dapur is more akin to a 'Suduk Maru', which is not restricted to pedangs. Of note is that there doesn't appear to be a definite 'inclination'/'curving' of the back-edge w.r.t. the tang, as is characterised by all of the above implements. Hope it helps in some way.
BTW,.. is this the one from Brunssum?

Groeten

Maurice · 23rd January 2007, 09:55 AM

Hi Pangeran Datu,

Thanksfor your explanation.
You're right. I'm the one from Brunssum.
And you are?????

(maybe the one from Heerlen????)

groeten,
Maurice

Pangeran Datu · 23rd January 2007, 11:18 AM

Hi Maurice,

Just to stop you wondering...

I'm not from the Netherlands at all; I'm from Australia.
I hope you every success in finding a satisfactory answer to your search.

Cheers.

7th January 2007, 07:56 AM	#2
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Maurice, Here it is, my old simple kujang. I forgot I have one. After looking at my kujang again, yours may not necessary be a tombak-tip. Some kudi and kujang does have metuk-iras but are not tombak. Last edited by Alam Shah; 7th January 2007 at 08:08 AM.

7th January 2007, 08:19 AM	#3
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Badek examples. If you're looking for Badek, here are some fine specimens. VVV's Badek Collection and 2 of my modest pieces. 1) Badek Bugis 2) Badek Bugis Sulawesi

23rd January 2007, 09:55 AM	#6
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	Hi Pangeran Datu, Thanksfor your explanation. You're right. I'm the one from Brunssum. And you are????? (maybe the one from Heerlen????) groeten, Maurice Last edited by Javagolok; 23rd January 2007 at 10:06 AM.

7th January 2007, 12:13 AM	#1
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	Hi Alam Shah, Thanks for your explanation. I always keep on smiling..... Thanks for sending the other link to the kujang attached on the spear. greetings

7th January 2007, 08:42 AM	#4
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	You have a nice collection Alam. I saw you also like martial arts. That's where my interests in indonesian weapons began.

22nd January 2007, 11:54 PM	#5
Pangeran Datu Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 79	Hi, I hope you've managed to identify the item. In case you haven't, I'd just like to say that, IMHO, it is definitely not a kujang or kudi as generally recognised by the Sunda. Its form doesn't have the right 'flow'; it's too 'rigid' (even for a Badek Patani or a Badik). The dapur is more akin to a 'Suduk Maru', which is not restricted to pedangs. Of note is that there doesn't appear to be a definite 'inclination'/'curving' of the back-edge w.r.t. the tang, as is characterised by all of the above implements. Hope it helps in some way. BTW,.. is this the one from Brunssum? Groeten

23rd January 2007, 11:18 AM	#7
Pangeran Datu Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 79	Hi Maurice, Just to stop you wondering... I'm not from the Netherlands at all; I'm from Australia. I hope you every success in finding a satisfactory answer to your search. Cheers.