Information On A Morro Kris

kai · 4th January 2007, 09:39 PM

Hello Alan,

I'm glad you didn't sold this kris - seems to be a really, really nice kalis seko from Sulu!

That must be a twist core blade (search this forum for more info and pics of other pieces). The blade needs to be slightly etched to make the pattern more easily visible (apparently polished off by an misinformed US veteran as is often the case with war souvenirs); please consider to let this do by someone like Battara if you don't feel comfortable with a DIY approach.

It would be very interesting to test those different metals/alloys utilized in the fittings! I wouldn't be surprised if the asang-asang are made from swaasa - look more like copper to me though.

Regards,
Kai

Flavio · 4th January 2007, 09:49 PM

Beautiful

!! Is the pommel carved from hornbill? See this other thread

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=638

Ian · 4th January 2007, 10:01 PM

Flavio:

I believe that is a striped wood called banati, which is used quite often for pommels on barung, kris, kampilan, etc. It's a very desirable and expensive wood among moro communities.

Ian.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flavio

Beautiful

!! Is the pommel carved from hornbill? See this other thread

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=638

Flavio · 5th January 2007, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

Flavio:

I believe that is a striped wood called banati, which is used quite often for pommels on barung, kris, kampilan, etc. It's a very desirable and expensive wood among moro communities.

Ian.

Yes, i see now that the top piece of the pommel is a piece of ivory (is right?

) glued to the banati part, sorry

Alan62 · 6th January 2007, 11:28 PM

If I decide to try to etch this blade myself , should I try polishing it better first to remove the old polish lines and swirls or should I just do the etching?
Any toughts on the best way a total novice should atempt to etch such a fine sword would be appreciated.Also do I need to worry about solution on the blade clamps?
I am not going to attempt anything until I feel I have the right info to do it
Thanks

Battara · 8th January 2007, 04:56 PM

NO I don't think any polishing is needed (based on what I can see in the pictures). The fastest way may be using ferrous cloride mixed with water. However, it is highly corrosive and the old way (and safest way) is to use heated citrus juice and vinegar (heat the blade too). On the clamps, steel wool (0000) would do fine on these particular ones (do it gently).

Alan62 · 9th January 2007, 01:39 AM

Thanks Battara, I will do as you say

kai · 15th January 2007, 09:19 AM

Quote:

On the clamps, steel wool (0000) would do fine on these particular ones (do it gently).

BTW, I don't think these need a cleaning. If so, I'd just gently polish with jewellers rouge since even the finest steel wool will take off more material from soft copper than really needed AFAIK.

Regards,
Kai

6th January 2007, 11:28 PM	#5
Alan62 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 164	If I decide to try to etch this blade myself , should I try polishing it better first to remove the old polish lines and swirls or should I just do the etching? Any toughts on the best way a total novice should atempt to etch such a fine sword would be appreciated.Also do I need to worry about solution on the blade clamps? I am not going to attempt anything until I feel I have the right info to do it Thanks Last edited by Alan62; 6th January 2007 at 11:40 PM.

4th January 2007, 09:39 PM	#1
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Alan, I'm glad you didn't sold this kris - seems to be a really, really nice kalis seko from Sulu! That must be a twist core blade (search this forum for more info and pics of other pieces). The blade needs to be slightly etched to make the pattern more easily visible (apparently polished off by an misinformed US veteran as is often the case with war souvenirs); please consider to let this do by someone like Battara if you don't feel comfortable with a DIY approach. It would be very interesting to test those different metals/alloys utilized in the fittings! I wouldn't be surprised if the asang-asang are made from swaasa - look more like copper to me though. Regards, Kai

4th January 2007, 09:49 PM	#2
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Beautiful !! Is the pommel carved from hornbill? See this other thread http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=638

8th January 2007, 04:56 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	NO I don't think any polishing is needed (based on what I can see in the pictures). The fastest way may be using ferrous cloride mixed with water. However, it is highly corrosive and the old way (and safest way) is to use heated citrus juice and vinegar (heat the blade too). On the clamps, steel wool (0000) would do fine on these particular ones (do it gently).

9th January 2007, 01:39 AM	#7
Alan62 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 164	Thanks Battara, I will do as you say