Jezail rifle. Unusual version ?

The Double D · 4th December 2006, 04:32 AM

Boy I'm glad I didn't say "definitely". I'm not all that familiar with Indo- Persian Guns...that's obvious.

Be very careful with that hot lye solution it will burn flesh and eat wood.

Philip · 5th December 2006, 04:53 AM

Note that in my prior post I said "lye SOAP", please do not use straight lye! Lye soap is the old-fashioned stuff in the huge yellow brick that people used for hand laundry back in the days of washtubs and corrugated washboards. (It was a real OLD-timer that passed this tip on to me, I'm just repeating it verbatim. The essential is hot, soapy water. I use a heavy duty dish detergent, it works well enough for the porpoise).

fernando · 8th December 2006, 08:10 PM

Gentlemen, i am "swamped" with so much information.
Philip, i am glad that you have ( another ) Portuguese book, Espingarda Perfeyta, an unique gun treatise from the early XVIII century. It looks like the drawing of the "square reamer" shown here by Ward, corresponds to the description of chapter XXI, for the barrel drilling, in that Portuguese work.
I still think both Ward's barrel and mine were made with the same technique, only mine went through a certain endurance and the lands were much worn with the intense shooting of whatever projectile material. Besides it could be that these barrels were a little flared at the muzzle section originally, which seems to be a rule on barrel making, according to Espingarda Pefeyta.
After inumerous tryals, i managed to get a couple pictures on the barrel exterior finishing. It sure looks like filing ... or doesn't it ?
fernando

Philip · 11th December 2006, 06:57 AM

Hi, Fernando
Thanks for the close up pics. Yes, those look like file marks to me. The patina on the surface throughout indicates that they have been there for a long time, and are not the result of someone's recent attempt to remove rust. If the marks continue all around the barrel and along its length, it's pretty likely that they were left over from original manufacture. If so, it's unlikely that the Afghan smith studied ESPINGARDA PERFEYTA during his apprenticeship!

5th December 2006, 04:53 AM	#2
Philip Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 1,036	caution! Note that in my prior post I said "lye SOAP", please do not use straight lye! Lye soap is the old-fashioned stuff in the huge yellow brick that people used for hand laundry back in the days of washtubs and corrugated washboards. (It was a real OLD-timer that passed this tip on to me, I'm just repeating it verbatim. The essential is hot, soapy water. I use a heavy duty dish detergent, it works well enough for the porpoise).

8th December 2006, 08:10 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Gentlemen, i am "swamped" with so much information. Philip, i am glad that you have ( another ) Portuguese book, Espingarda Perfeyta, an unique gun treatise from the early XVIII century. It looks like the drawing of the "square reamer" shown here by Ward, corresponds to the description of chapter XXI, for the barrel drilling, in that Portuguese work. I still think both Ward's barrel and mine were made with the same technique, only mine went through a certain endurance and the lands were much worn with the intense shooting of whatever projectile material. Besides it could be that these barrels were a little flared at the muzzle section originally, which seems to be a rule on barrel making, according to Espingarda Pefeyta. After inumerous tryals, i managed to get a couple pictures on the barrel exterior finishing. It sure looks like filing ... or doesn't it ? fernando Attached Images Last edited by fernando; 8th December 2006 at 08:40 PM.

4th December 2006, 04:32 AM	#1
The Double D Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: On the banks of Cut Bank Creek, Montana Posts: 189	Boy I'm glad I didn't say "definitely". I'm not all that familiar with Indo- Persian Guns...that's obvious. Be very careful with that hot lye solution it will burn flesh and eat wood.

11th December 2006, 06:57 AM	#4
Philip Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 1,036	Hi, Fernando Thanks for the close up pics. Yes, those look like file marks to me. The patina on the surface throughout indicates that they have been there for a long time, and are not the result of someone's recent attempt to remove rust. If the marks continue all around the barrel and along its length, it's pretty likely that they were left over from original manufacture. If so, it's unlikely that the Afghan smith studied ESPINGARDA PERFEYTA during his apprenticeship!