my first keris

Rick · 28th November 2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Thanks Rick. I guess to a purest that is a bit crap.

Not neccesarily.

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Where does the blade come from? do bits get traded and mixed in use as people are not always in one place? The big question- IS IT CRAP ? go on I can take it, you never stop cocking up in this game.

I'd like to see pictures when it arrives; don't think you're a mug.

Here's a few real cockups for you.
Nightmares from my past.........

Tim Simmons · 28th November 2006, 07:52 PM

Eek, they really make hair standing on end

. Wait untill I have it.

I suppose seeing how well it all fits together is the key as to whether it is a cobbled up composite or genuinely made form bits that were available at the time. As in is the scabbard made for this blade?

Rick · 28th November 2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

I suppose seeing how well it all fits together is the key as to whether it is a cobbled up composite or genuinely made form bits that were available at the time. As in is the scabbard made for this blade?

Wrongkos can be refitted to house a different blade than the original one.

Tim Simmons · 28th November 2006, 08:33 PM

Yes they could indeed. Quite tricky. I have my fingers crossed that it is a decent piece, obviously I am not expecting a miracle. A bargin would be nice

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William.m · 29th November 2006, 12:05 AM

Hi Tim, looks like a nice piece, I almost put in a bid but lucky for you I forgot! haha

If your going up north anytime soon there is an excellent antique shop in york that has quite a few keris for sale. I picked up one when I was visiting last month. Can't remember what the shop was called but its in the shambles district.

Will

Tim Simmons · 1st December 2006, 11:55 AM

I do not know about composite but I think it sucks! The sellers use of "used" is just a euphemism for brand spanking new

. I paid less for the all metal lance and the Naga dao both wonderful pieces, I said my luck would run out. It seems to rely on wieght rather than any really skilled tempering of the blade. Used is a very meaningless term, something to remember. It was probably made for tourists. pictures of the crap to follow

Alam Shah · 1st December 2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

I do not know about composite but I think it sucks!

Hi Tim, the small eBay pictures were misleading.

I was expecting to see two properly formed grooves (sogokan depan and sogokan belakang) at the bottom centre of the blade, not two lines of what seems to be formed by a grinder and looked unfinished.

The nice part of this ensemble is, the hilt ring (pendokok). A Malay Straits model. Although it looks new, it's well-formed.

1st December 2006, 11:55 AM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	It is here, what a sucker! I do not know about composite but I think it sucks! The sellers use of "used" is just a euphemism for brand spanking new . I paid less for the all metal lance and the Naga dao both wonderful pieces, I said my luck would run out. It seems to rely on wieght rather than any really skilled tempering of the blade. Used is a very meaningless term, something to remember. It was probably made for tourists. pictures of the crap to follow Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 1st December 2006 at 12:18 PM.

28th November 2006, 07:52 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Eek, they really make hair standing on end . Wait untill I have it. I suppose seeing how well it all fits together is the key as to whether it is a cobbled up composite or genuinely made form bits that were available at the time. As in is the scabbard made for this blade?

28th November 2006, 08:33 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Yes they could indeed. Quite tricky. I have my fingers crossed that it is a decent piece, obviously I am not expecting a miracle. A bargin would be nice .

29th November 2006, 12:05 AM	#5
William.m Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: England Posts: 104	Hi Tim, looks like a nice piece, I almost put in a bid but lucky for you I forgot! haha If your going up north anytime soon there is an excellent antique shop in york that has quite a few keris for sale. I picked up one when I was visiting last month. Can't remember what the shop was called but its in the shambles district. Will