Dayak parang ilang Handle

[VVV]

Here is another odd Iban parang.
It has a "half-crowit" and the point is not as pronounced as for a Langgai Tinggang or a Niabor.
The long blade is flat with fullers and incised with phyllomorphic design on both sides. Look carefully at the point and you can see the design.

Michael

[Marcokeris]

Some other handles

[Dajak]

Hi Michael yes There is no classification for this type so I called it sea dayak sword or mandau sometimes you see campilans on north borneo with the same point (not the design but is very nice we find these on Jimpulls)
this could be also be an transition sword between the Iban and other dayaks
The short handle is typicall Iban .

Nice Kenya/ Kayan handle s Marcokeris

here an old style handle as we can see in Qeur Durch Borneo very different from what we see on the later mandau s

[VVV]

Originally Posted by Dajak

Hi Michael yes There is no classification for this type so I called it sea dayak sword or mandau sometimes you see campilans on north borneo with the same point (not the design but is very nice we find these on Jimpulls)
this could be also be an transition sword between the Iban and other dayaks
The short handle is typicall Iban .

Hi Ben,

Sea Dayak sword seems to be a fitting name until it has been classified.
I haven't seen any other Dayak parang resembling this one so far.

Nice hilts Marcokeris and Ben!

Michael

[Dajak]

Hi Arjan can you take a look in leiden about this handle ??

Ben

[VVV]

Ben,

I don't think Leiden is the proper place to find resembling hilts to ours.
This because of the non Iban bias in their collection.
I had a look myself in their collection archive and didn't find any close to yours.
On my hilt it looks clearly influenced by two of the old Kenyah hilts collected by Nieuwenhuis?
By influenced I mean that that's the closest resemblence of the hilts in their collection. Not that they are identical in style.
Maybe the Kenyah resemblence is another reason to classify this as a transition sword before the Iban adopted the Ilang as their own parang?
Here is a picture of the hilt from another angle for comparison.

Michael

PS Don't you think your hilt a bit resembles the old ones in Tromp's article, collected in Koetei?

[Dajak]

Hi Michael

I don t think so because if you look at that type off hilt you see a face and the back off the handle is almost straight .
I see also no type off hilt in Hein so would be difficult to trace it

your hilt is also a nice one
Ben

[Mytribalworld]

Originally Posted by Dajak

Hi Arjan can you take a look in leiden about this handle ??

Ben

Hi Ben,
sorry for the late reaction I was very busy making www.thehornbill.com
so I didn't have any time to answer.
The discussion is very interesting.
Leiden has as far as I have seen not a mandauhilt like the one you listed in the beginning of this thread.
what I think is that it is maybe an Iban imitation of a Modang hilt.
the shape is very rare and I don't think you'll find easy another like this.
on the silverwork: I know that the Maloh tribe who produced as well as the brass corsets for the Iban also most of the silverwork.they are likely originated from a mixed race of indigenes and Hindu -Javanese invaders.
This could declare the more ar less "non-Iban" style in the silverwork.
(source: metalworking in Borneo ,V.T King and J.W.Christie)

Arjan.

[Maurice]

Originally Posted by mandaukudi

Leiden has as far as I have seen not a mandauhilt like the one you listed in the beginning of this thread.
what I think is that it is maybe an Iban imitation of a Modang hilt.

Hi Arjan, Michael, Bill and not to forget the starter of this thread: Ben,

In these interesting threads I miss the presence of Ben, who is unfortunately no member anymore of the forum quite a while now allready.

I have found a mandau with a handle with similar shape as the one Ben posted in the beginning of the thread.
It took me more than a year to get it, because the former owner didn't want to let it go. But after a lot of "nagging" I was able to buy it last week.

It has no antler handle and has no silver sleeve as Ben's, but it has the shame shape. Also there is a similarity on the scabbard (the two leeches to the right are also there on mine), and another carving that is not on Ben's, but what is typically Iban.

The blade is also typicall Iban.
So I guess this makes it more likely the one Ben posted is Iban indeed!

I only post an image of the handle for now! (image is from the seller's, I will post better images also of the handle, scabbard and blade after it arrived at my home).

Maurice