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24th November 2006, 08:55 PM
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Throw a few cornish hens on that puppy and give them a good roasting
 Looks like a wall hanger to me. Lew |
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24th November 2006, 09:39 PM
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 It looks a clumsy tool to me more of a bludgen than a rapier.  Spiral |
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24th November 2006, 09:48 PM
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Please Gentlemen .....be easy on me......else I won't invite you round for to my BBQ ...with my new novelty 'spit roast' turner
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24th November 2006, 10:32 PM
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Beuty in the eye of the beholder & all that!
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25th November 2006, 03:41 AM
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Man, these guys are brutal! I think they may be wrong it has the appearance of a very rare early Boer braai pattern rapier.
We all are going to look the fools if this turns out to be Jen-U-Wine! 
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25th November 2006, 05:49 AM
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Despite all the BBQ tool analysis
JUDL!! I cant resist throwing in my 2cents on this 'item'. I am inclined to agree with Marc on the 'Victorian' period assessment, but am wondering if this might be a theatrical weapon. It seems that some of the weapons made for 'period' performances were made sturdily, although not necessarily completely accurate. While this sword is made to appear to be a cuphilt rapier, it is clearly not intended to withstand comparison to the authentic examples. It would however, present the desired effect as part of a costume in a performance. Just speculation on my part. It seems like many of the so called wallhangers or reproductions for gentlemans parlors during Victorian times at least made viable attempt at a degree of authenticity. Many of these were easily passed off as authentic examples by antique dealers in the 20th century to unwary buyers. Katana, even if this is a Victorian period sword, for whatever purpose, it still clearly has its own story to tell.... All the best, Jim |
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25th November 2006, 12:14 PM
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Other than the possible peened pommel, the overall 'crudeness' of the sword's construction 'swayed' me into believing that this might not be 'Victoriana' and hence I took a risk. My reasoning was that a 'wallhanger' would be more ornate...and accurate.... this sword looked more simplistic and functional. I tried to find similar examples on the web and .....found none. I began to wonder whether this was a 'blacksmiths' sword.....apparently a number of blacksmiths produced cheaper basic swords during the 17c-18c ( and possibly before and after this period) I cannot remember the reference (sorry Jim ), but, I was assuming this was common knowledge to collectors of this period. If I can find the reference I will post it. But several examples (pictures) shown were of crude rapiers, I assumed this type were more common because the blade would be easier to forge and would require less 'finishing'. If it wasn't for those old action/adventure movies of my childhood...I probably wouldn't have had a desire to own a rapier......Damn Errol Flynn and his swashbuckling...... Assuming this sword is a poorly constructed wallhanger I will find a use for it.....perhaps a 'one of a kind' car aerial
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