Rare Dayak Daggers - Sadop and Dohong

Dajak · 10th November 2006, 05:58 PM

Hi Michael the sadap they discribe in junboll has an different handle than yours take a look also in zonnevelds book page 117

I will see if my friend still have his spear

And yes I like to see his mandau

It is always a problem to classify weapons but dayak weapons are just a few
The other ones was taken from the country they came and mixed up with dayak weapons but short daggars where never used by the Iban because
they have no use for it is is an maleier weapon not an dayak weapon
made and used in kalimantan

VVV · 10th November 2006, 09:43 PM

Hi Ben,

I haven't claimed those daggers as attributed to the Iban tribe?

Here is the rare mandau I think you wanted to discuss - the Bayu.
I received these pictures from Karsten Sejr Jensen together with his description intended for this forum of his Bayu (directly translated from Danish to English by me):

The blade is 40 cm and the complete mandau is 59,5 cm.
It originates from Central Borneo (the Kajan/Kenyah tribes).
The handle shows Hiraang Lejau Midaang, a deity from Apua Lagaan, that sends the rice spirits back to Earth so they can unite with the growing rice (attending the rice festivals in the form of a Hudoc mask).
The belt buckle is a temple lobe from a skull.

Kind regards,

Karsten

Battara · 11th November 2006, 06:43 PM

Freaky!

Never seen a mandau blade like before, thank you for posting and clearing up the origin of the other daggers.

Dajak · 12th November 2006, 10:12 AM

Hi Michael this is an very nice mandau the blade is rare but Handle on these
are mostly different like this one,
but it is an very nice rare hard to get blade.

Battara · 12th November 2006, 07:23 PM

And more with the

VVV · 12th November 2006, 07:56 PM

Ben,

Thanks for sharing an additional example of this rare parang.
I agree that the handle of your example looks closer to the illustration in Blink.
It's a pity that the pictures in the Shelford article are so poor.

Michael

Dajak · 12th November 2006, 08:47 PM

Hi Michael this one is from the time they have no pics That s why you see no picture off it .
But the mandau from your friend is great I only wanna say that the handle is maybe replaced or the weapon was later than the example from blink.
Having an mandau like this is very rare and your friend have something real special .
the pics in shelford very difficult to see but the classification is nice .
Don t forget the pakayun the type we both have that is in it that is also important for dating after 1900 the fork handle was in use (or the one we have was only for special people) .
I will have something special in an few weeks I will post it here
never see anything like it .

10th November 2006, 09:43 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Hi Ben, I haven't claimed those daggers as attributed to the Iban tribe? Here is the rare mandau I think you wanted to discuss - the Bayu. I received these pictures from Karsten Sejr Jensen together with his description intended for this forum of his Bayu (directly translated from Danish to English by me): The blade is 40 cm and the complete mandau is 59,5 cm. It originates from Central Borneo (the Kajan/Kenyah tribes). The handle shows Hiraang Lejau Midaang, a deity from Apua Lagaan, that sends the rice spirits back to Earth so they can unite with the growing rice (attending the rice festivals in the form of a Hudoc mask). The belt buckle is a temple lobe from a skull. Kind regards, Karsten Attached Images

12th November 2006, 10:12 AM	#4
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Michael this is an very nice mandau the blade is rare but Handle on these are mostly different like this one, but it is an very nice rare hard to get blade. Attached Images

10th November 2006, 05:58 PM	#1
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Michael the sadap they discribe in junboll has an different handle than yours take a look also in zonnevelds book page 117 I will see if my friend still have his spear And yes I like to see his mandau It is always a problem to classify weapons but dayak weapons are just a few The other ones was taken from the country they came and mixed up with dayak weapons but short daggars where never used by the Iban because they have no use for it is is an maleier weapon not an dayak weapon made and used in kalimantan

11th November 2006, 06:43 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Freaky! Never seen a mandau blade like before, thank you for posting and clearing up the origin of the other daggers.

12th November 2006, 07:23 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	And more with the

12th November 2006, 07:56 PM	#6
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Ben, Thanks for sharing an additional example of this rare parang. I agree that the handle of your example looks closer to the illustration in Blink. It's a pity that the pictures in the Shelford article are so poor. Michael

12th November 2006, 08:47 PM	#7
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Michael this one is from the time they have no pics That s why you see no picture off it . But the mandau from your friend is great I only wanna say that the handle is maybe replaced or the weapon was later than the example from blink. Having an mandau like this is very rare and your friend have something real special . the pics in shelford very difficult to see but the classification is nice . Don t forget the pakayun the type we both have that is in it that is also important for dating after 1900 the fork handle was in use (or the one we have was only for special people) . I will have something special in an few weeks I will post it here never see anything like it .