Sudan short sword. Qama/khinjal like blade

Lew · 6th November 2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Fabulous, from the same workshop. Can you post pics of the whole thing.

Here ya go. I think the lower dagger is from the same shop due to the similar scroll work on the blade.

Lew

Tim Simmons · 6th November 2006, 09:27 PM

Thanks Lew I can smile again now

Rivkin · 8th November 2006, 01:59 AM

First of all I am not sure it is not a local invention that just by the means of similar function resembles kindjal. Second, Sudan was a part of Ottoman Empire and, despite the Sassanid claims of the opposite, had no relationship to Iranic world.
In XIXth century Sudan was very pro-Ottoman because since Muhammed Ali it became a place where circassian officers were exiled for opposing Ali or the the presence of arabs in egyptian army. During Mahdist rebellion the "government" forces clashed with Mahdist; the corner of the former was formed by so called "Mexican' veterans (i.e. the unit lead by circassians who fought in Mexico as a part of french expeditionary force). Their Ottoman loyalty was well known, so again if something it is a continuation of Ottoman kindjal-like daggers.

6th November 2006, 09:27 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Thanks Lew I can smile again now

8th November 2006, 01:59 AM	#3
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	First of all I am not sure it is not a local invention that just by the means of similar function resembles kindjal. Second, Sudan was a part of Ottoman Empire and, despite the Sassanid claims of the opposite, had no relationship to Iranic world. In XIXth century Sudan was very pro-Ottoman because since Muhammed Ali it became a place where circassian officers were exiled for opposing Ali or the the presence of arabs in egyptian army. During Mahdist rebellion the "government" forces clashed with Mahdist; the corner of the former was formed by so called "Mexican' veterans (i.e. the unit lead by circassians who fought in Mexico as a part of french expeditionary force). Their Ottoman loyalty was well known, so again if something it is a continuation of Ottoman kindjal-like daggers.