Madura Wrongko's of Various Types?

Alam Shah · 17th September 2006, 04:18 PM

Another Maduran form.

VVV · 17th September 2006, 05:27 PM

The Gayaman sheath, Solo version, is also seen sometimes.

Michael

Rick · 17th September 2006, 05:45 PM

This combination seems to have been together for a long time .
The pesi is wrapped with human hair.
I've never had this one apart; I'm kind of superstisius about this one.

Freddy · 17th September 2006, 08:39 PM

Here is a Madura keris in my collection

David · 17th September 2006, 11:30 PM

Here are a few more examples. Please excuse the image quality, as i shot these very quickly on my porch this afternoon

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David · 17th September 2006, 11:40 PM

Here are three patrems from Madura in three basic sheath forms:

Alam Shah · 18th September 2006, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Here are a few more examples. Please excuse the image quality, as i shot these very quickly on my porch this afternoon

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David, This is the first time... I've seen your lovely, exquisite fittings. The 1st one is an eye-popper (for me). I like it very much.

The wood-grains are fantastic. Thanks for sharing. Now back to the topic...

David · 18th September 2006, 04:47 PM

Thanks Shahrial. You might have a tougher time getting me to show the blades.

That first one is a beauty indeed. This is one of my few all modern keris (dress and blade), with a late 20thC blade. I am very pleased this level of craftsmanship still exists.

A. G. Maisey · 17th September 2006, 11:41 PM

Yes, I have also often wondered at the variety in Madura wrongkos. There`s a lot of variety in the handles too.

Regarding the photos that have already been posted:-

VVV--- I don't think this is a Solo style wrongko, it appears to me to be East Jawa; Madura is of course a part of East Jawa. The handle looks like an old North Coast one, not Madura.

Rick---why do you think this is Madura dress? The wrongko is Jogja, although the handle is Madura.

Here are few Madura wrongkos from my own collection. I`ve left handles and blades, and mendak out of it for the time being, to allow us to focus on just one element of dress at a time.

A. G. Maisey · 17th September 2006, 11:45 PM

And a couple more.

Rick · 18th September 2006, 01:24 AM

[QUOTE=A. G. Maisey
Rick---why do you think this is Madura dress? The wrongko is Jogja, although the handle is Madura.

Because the shape is so similar to the one you present as Madura and the one David also presents . I perceive a similar certain lack of 'belly' on the left hand end .
I guess I need a finer eye to discern Jogya gayaman wrongkos from Maduran .

Alam Shah · 18th September 2006, 02:18 AM

Are there names to identify the various types of sheath form?
Afaik, from the pictures... Ladrang Madura, Gayaman Madura and Sandang Walikat Madura in general.

David, your 1st piece, the sheath form is interesting and a beauty (the bird hilt too.) Your horn Sandang Walikat sheath is exquisite.

Alan, what are these type called? This one, the wings reminds me of the piece from Nagasasra's "Unusual Keris Dress from where?" thread.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=13594&stc=1

This one, the central panel is typical of Maduran carvings, common especially on Donoriko hilt form. But its unique on this sheath form.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=13613&stc=1

This one, upper portion of the wrangka, looks almost a Malay form, except for the carvings and the curves at the lower part of the cross-piece.

Interesting thread...

17th September 2006, 04:18 PM	#1
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Another... Another Maduran form.

17th September 2006, 05:27 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	The Gayaman sheath, Solo version, is also seen sometimes. Michael Attached Images

17th September 2006, 05:45 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Another Gayaman This combination seems to have been together for a long time . The pesi is wrapped with human hair. I've never had this one apart; I'm kind of superstisius about this one. Attached Images

17th September 2006, 08:39 PM	#4
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Another Maduran form Here is a Madura keris in my collection

17th September 2006, 11:30 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Here are a few more examples. Please excuse the image quality, as i shot these very quickly on my porch this afternoon : Attached Images

17th September 2006, 11:40 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Here are three patrems from Madura in three basic sheath forms: Attached Images

18th September 2006, 04:47 PM	#8
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Thanks Shahrial. You might have a tougher time getting me to show the blades. That first one is a beauty indeed. This is one of my few all modern keris (dress and blade), with a late 20thC blade. I am very pleased this level of craftsmanship still exists.

17th September 2006, 11:41 PM	#9
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Yes, I have also often wondered at the variety in Madura wrongkos. There`s a lot of variety in the handles too. Regarding the photos that have already been posted:- VVV--- I don't think this is a Solo style wrongko, it appears to me to be East Jawa; Madura is of course a part of East Jawa. The handle looks like an old North Coast one, not Madura. Rick---why do you think this is Madura dress? The wrongko is Jogja, although the handle is Madura. Here are few Madura wrongkos from my own collection. I`ve left handles and blades, and mendak out of it for the time being, to allow us to focus on just one element of dress at a time. Attached Images

17th September 2006, 11:45 PM	#10
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	And a couple more. Attached Images

18th September 2006, 01:24 AM	#11
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	[QUOTE=A. G. Maisey Rick---why do you think this is Madura dress? The wrongko is Jogja, although the handle is Madura. Because the shape is so similar to the one you present as Madura and the one David also presents . I perceive a similar certain lack of 'belly' on the left hand end . I guess I need a finer eye to discern Jogya gayaman wrongkos from Maduran . Attached Images

18th September 2006, 02:18 AM	#12
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Are there names to identify the various types of sheath form? Afaik, from the pictures... Ladrang Madura, Gayaman Madura and Sandang Walikat Madura in general. David, your 1st piece, the sheath form is interesting and a beauty (the bird hilt too.) Your horn Sandang Walikat sheath is exquisite. Alan, what are these type called? This one, the wings reminds me of the piece from Nagasasra's "Unusual Keris Dress from where?" thread. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=13594&stc=1 This one, the central panel is typical of Maduran carvings, common especially on Donoriko hilt form. But its unique on this sheath form. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...id=13613&stc=1 This one, upper portion of the wrangka, looks almost a Malay form, except for the carvings and the curves at the lower part of the cross-piece. Interesting thread...