Some Help with a Balinese Keris

Rick · 6th February 2005, 12:31 AM

Me too !

Drool ........

Great contrast to the pamor !
The luks are so graceful .
Oh to own one like it < sigh >

Henk · 6th February 2005, 02:41 PM

I was reading, well reading....looking pictures in a book about Lombok Keris. It is in the Indonesian language, so that's why I was looking pictures .

There was a drawing of a keris that had the same dapur as this one. Unfortenately no description about the prabot because the chapter was about pamor. It is not an uncommon prabot and can be found in literature. A shame they didn't use a line to name the dapur.

I found also pictures about the same style of dress. Carefully I would say that this keris is from Lombok.

Anyway, it is a beauty!!! Thanks for sharing.

Alam Shah · 6th February 2005, 03:09 PM

Henk,
If you don't mind, could you let us know the title of the book that you are 'reading'. This should help in updating our knowledge.

BSMStar · 6th February 2005, 06:42 PM

Now that was a curve I did not expect!

... LomboK?

That would really put me back to "square one" since I know even less about Lombok Keris. The joys of collecting!

Henk · 6th February 2005, 10:35 PM

Alam Shah,

Sorry, that was not too smart. To mention reading a book and not telling wich one. It is "Keris (di) Lombok" by Ir. H. Lalu Djelenga

BSMStar · 8th February 2005, 02:54 PM

I have seen this hilt IDed as Bayu.... but also as Bima (see link)

Bima
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/taman.sari/k...kiran_bali.htm
Bayu
http://www.ethno-museum.ac.at/en/col...a/indon2l.html

Are they the same or different deities?

Mick · 8th February 2005, 05:44 PM

BSMStar

It's Bayu. The attribute is the Amrita held in the right hand accross the chest.

I have a Hanuman with the Amrita for which I haven't figured the reason. Hanuman is recognized by the tail that curls up over the top of his head.

Bima is a hero. Batara Bayu is a God. The "God of Winds" if my memory serves me right. He is also the father of Hanuman (the White Monkey General).

6th February 2005, 02:41 PM	#2
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	I was reading, well reading....looking pictures in a book about Lombok Keris. It is in the Indonesian language, so that's why I was looking pictures . There was a drawing of a keris that had the same dapur as this one. Unfortenately no description about the prabot because the chapter was about pamor. It is not an uncommon prabot and can be found in literature. A shame they didn't use a line to name the dapur. I found also pictures about the same style of dress. Carefully I would say that this keris is from Lombok. Anyway, it is a beauty!!! Thanks for sharing. Last edited by Henk; 6th February 2005 at 10:37 PM.

6th February 2005, 03:09 PM	#3
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Title of book. Henk, If you don't mind, could you let us know the title of the book that you are 'reading'. This should help in updating our knowledge.

6th February 2005, 06:42 PM	#4
BSMStar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Posts: 312	Wowwwww! Now that was a curve I did not expect! ... LomboK? That would really put me back to "square one" since I know even less about Lombok Keris. The joys of collecting!

8th February 2005, 02:54 PM	#6
BSMStar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Posts: 312	Bima or Bayu I have seen this hilt IDed as Bayu.... but also as Bima (see link) Bima http://perso.wanadoo.fr/taman.sari/k...kiran_bali.htm Bayu http://www.ethno-museum.ac.at/en/col...a/indon2l.html Are they the same or different deities?

6th February 2005, 12:31 AM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Me too ! Drool ........ Great contrast to the pamor ! The luks are so graceful . Oh to own one like it < sigh >

6th February 2005, 10:35 PM	#5
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Alam Shah, Sorry, that was not too smart. To mention reading a book and not telling wich one. It is "Keris (di) Lombok" by Ir. H. Lalu Djelenga

8th February 2005, 05:44 PM	#7
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	BSMStar It's Bayu. The attribute is the Amrita held in the right hand accross the chest. I have a Hanuman with the Amrita for which I haven't figured the reason. Hanuman is recognized by the tail that curls up over the top of his head. Bima is a hero. Batara Bayu is a God. The "God of Winds" if my memory serves me right. He is also the father of Hanuman (the White Monkey General).