Nice Old Congo Sword For Comment

Mapico1 · 10th August 2006, 05:50 PM

Very old double LOBALA execution sword.Shaped like a human figure,notice the breasts...19th C for sure!Nice one!!Lew.

The Double D · 10th August 2006, 06:25 PM

Any of those books available in English?

Flavio · 10th August 2006, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Double D

Any of those books available in English?

Hello Double D all the three books are in english, french, german and, if i'm correct, dutch

katana · 10th August 2006, 08:15 PM

Congrats Lew, a very nice example.

Mapico, you mentioned that this is symbolic of a human form with breasts, so is it a representation of the female? Are there examples that symbolise the male?

Lew · 23rd August 2006, 06:44 PM

Hi All

The sword arrived today and there is a problem I am facing. It seems that the sword has a weld where that rust line is center of the blade it seems to have been broken in half and repaired it is a good clean tight weld. Does this ruin the sword's value as far as you Congo weapons collectors know? Should I return the sword to the seller?

Lew

katana · 23rd August 2006, 07:01 PM

Hi Lew,
do you think that the repair is 'forge welded', or a modern weld?
Personally, I would feel that the repair detracts from its value. Seems strange how the blade was snapped...I cannot see signs of damage to suggest how it occured.
If the weld is a forged weld, perhaps it occured when first made, or soon after...... if this is the case IMHO then the value is only slightly diminished...... a modern weld.....well I know what I would do.

Tim Simmons · 23rd August 2006, 09:06 PM

Lew, a good close up would be nice. I have to say I do not recall ever seeing repairs as you show us. The fact that rust has formed on the weld suggests a relatively recent job and not forge welded . You have my sympathies with regard to how disappointing such a discovery must be on what would have been a very nice addition to your collection. I think if the seller purports to be at all knowledgeable about such items, and I suspect they do as the photographs did not show the clear join on the other side of the blade. Then you may have grounds for a dispute. Rather you than me. I have had this problem before luckily on an item that I was fortunately able to consider cheap enough to bare. It could so easily be very different and more painful. Thats ebay

Congoblades · 23rd August 2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

Hi All

The sword arrived today and there is a problem I am facing. It seems that the sword has a weld where that rust line is center of the blade it seems to have been broken in half and repaired it is a good clean tight weld. Does this ruin the sword's value as far as you Congo weapons collectors know? Should I return the sword to the seller?

Lew

It's very nice, but I should return it to the seller. For me it's unacceptable if the seller didn't mensioned this repair

Flavio · 23rd August 2006, 09:35 PM

Lew, it's a shame

!!! Now you have to think first if the price that you have paid is still good for such a repair and second if you are able to find a sword nice as this one, because it's anyway a beautiful piece

!

23rd August 2006, 06:44 PM	#5
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Hi All The sword arrived today and there is a problem I am facing. It seems that the sword has a weld where that rust line is center of the blade it seems to have been broken in half and repaired it is a good clean tight weld. Does this ruin the sword's value as far as you Congo weapons collectors know? Should I return the sword to the seller? Lew Attached Images

10th August 2006, 05:50 PM	#1
Mapico1 Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 86	Very old double LOBALA execution sword.Shaped like a human figure,notice the breasts...19th C for sure!Nice one!!Lew.

10th August 2006, 06:25 PM	#2
The Double D Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: On the banks of Cut Bank Creek, Montana Posts: 189	Any of those books available in English?

10th August 2006, 08:15 PM	#4
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Congrats Lew, a very nice example. Mapico, you mentioned that this is symbolic of a human form with breasts, so is it a representation of the female? Are there examples that symbolise the male?

23rd August 2006, 07:01 PM	#6
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Hi Lew, do you think that the repair is 'forge welded', or a modern weld? Personally, I would feel that the repair detracts from its value. Seems strange how the blade was snapped...I cannot see signs of damage to suggest how it occured. If the weld is a forged weld, perhaps it occured when first made, or soon after...... if this is the case IMHO then the value is only slightly diminished...... a modern weld.....well I know what I would do.

23rd August 2006, 09:06 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Lew, a good close up would be nice. I have to say I do not recall ever seeing repairs as you show us. The fact that rust has formed on the weld suggests a relatively recent job and not forge welded . You have my sympathies with regard to how disappointing such a discovery must be on what would have been a very nice addition to your collection. I think if the seller purports to be at all knowledgeable about such items, and I suspect they do as the photographs did not show the clear join on the other side of the blade. Then you may have grounds for a dispute. Rather you than me. I have had this problem before luckily on an item that I was fortunately able to consider cheap enough to bare. It could so easily be very different and more painful. Thats ebay

23rd August 2006, 09:35 PM	#9
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Lew, it's a shame !!! Now you have to think first if the price that you have paid is still good for such a repair and second if you are able to find a sword nice as this one, because it's anyway a beautiful piece !