Crucible steel in Malela keris

jagabuwana · 25th November 2025, 03:13 AM

Hello, Adam - nice keris! Thank you for sharing.

Hello, Alan:

- From what you and IP have said, it seems like the effect on Adam's keris could be produced by arranging the layers as you would for pamor wos wutah, but folding many more times to create a denser pamor which might look like wootz. Am I understanding correctly? If so, would this still be called pamor urab urab as opposed to wos wutah, or does pamor UU refer specifically to something with wootz construct?

- If this keris were in your hand, how would you identify whether it is crucible or forge welded?

- From previous discussions in this forum I've gathered that a whole-wootz keris is exceedingly rare. But if they were more common, would you be any more inclined to think that this is made of crucible steel?

- To my eye this keris appears have no slorok. If I'm right is that a relevant factor in this discussion?

25th November 2025, 03:13 AM	#4
jagabuwana Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 295	Hello, Adam - nice keris! Thank you for sharing. Hello, Alan: - From what you and IP have said, it seems like the effect on Adam's keris could be produced by arranging the layers as you would for pamor wos wutah, but folding many more times to create a denser pamor which might look like wootz. Am I understanding correctly? If so, would this still be called pamor urab urab as opposed to wos wutah, or does pamor UU refer specifically to something with wootz construct? - If this keris were in your hand, how would you identify whether it is crucible or forge welded? - From previous discussions in this forum I've gathered that a whole-wootz keris is exceedingly rare. But if they were more common, would you be any more inclined to think that this is made of crucible steel? - To my eye this keris appears have no slorok. If I'm right is that a relevant factor in this discussion?