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Old 13th June 2025, 03:27 PM   #1
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I absolutely agree it is a composite.
In truth, the schiavona I always wanted featured a very broad double edged blade with a broad fuller or multiple fullers.
Somebody out there may recognize one of these.
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The attraction of my sword blade was that hilt made me suspect that GRGUR was specifically commissioned to hilt that rapier blade and not that it was all simply put together by any random smith with any available suitable parts.
The quality of the blade and the significance of the markings at the ricasso were what made me think that. It has been suggested that those markings refer to the Circle of Twelve, but I haven't been able to figure out what that means. Were they the bodyguard of the Doge (No, not Elon!)
I'd still rather have my initial specification, but acquiring one in this fine condition did not prove possible at the time when this appeared.
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Old 14th June 2025, 09:21 PM   #2
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I've been searching for my perfect schiavona and while this ticks all the boxes, except for museum quality, it has another feature that marks it as exceptional:
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It would appear that there is absolutely no fixed rule regarding the hole, its position and/or its use.
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fascinating stuff!
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Old 15th June 2025, 10:13 AM   #3
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the use of the hole is to attach the guard , i would not buy a shiavona with an exact blade as in your picture because that is a 19th c blade.
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Old 15th June 2025, 11:19 AM   #4
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I'm afraid you have me confused. Which is a 19thC blade?
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Old 15th June 2025, 12:14 PM   #5
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the last schiavona you posted
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Old 17th June 2025, 11:07 AM   #6
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the last schiavona you posted
That is a surprise!
I am still learning. Any possibility you could explain what indicates its age? To my inexperienced eye it looks just like the earlier images I posted (one of which was yours, by-the-way).
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Old 17th June 2025, 04:29 PM   #7
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My Schiavona has a waisted ricasso with leather cover. Its made me think what the scabbard would butt up against. Likely the chamfered end of the blade just before the waisted section I suppose.

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