Mandau

[asomotif]

It would be worth to restore the hilt in my opinion.

The ivory most probably allowed a more detailed carving compared to deer antler.

[Marc M.]

Originally Posted by asomotif

It would be worth to restore the hilt in my opinion.

The ivory most probably allowed a more detailed carving compared to deer antler.

Thank you for your response. Is there any particular reason that ivory was rarely used although the material is present?
I suppose the piece missing from my mandau is similar to your mandau. A restoration might be considered, I have a piece from which it could be made.
Regards
Marc

[asomotif]

Hello Marc,
I do not know if there is a specific reason why ivory is seldom/almost not used in Borneo.
I have only seen 2 objects of elephant ivory before. Both were earrings, and one of the owners was for some reason claiming that it was an ivorine fake. This is the 3rd object of ivory that I have seen. And based on the carving I am sure this is the real deal 🙂
The material is indeed present as in local elephants. And also through trade it must have been possible to get ivory from either Asia or Africa.
Ido notice that elephants do not play a role in the art , myths and religions on Borneo.

[asomotif]

Ps. I just noticed that on your hilt, the protruding point at the back is an inserted piece of a different material. Probably antler. I assume the ivory was not big enough to carve this protruding point from one piece.

Ps. Here a picture of a hilt of similar quality to give you an idea about how the missing 'nose' might have looked.

[Marc M.]

Originally Posted by asomotif

Ps. I just noticed that on your hilt, the protruding point at the back is an inserted piece of a different material. Probably antler. I assume the ivory was not big enough to carve this protruding point from one piece.

Ps. Here a picture of a hilt of similar quality to give you an idea about how the missing 'nose' might have looked.

Indeed, I forgot to mention that the piece sticking out is of a different material, probably antler or bone. Do you have an opinion on the blade, apparently a laminated blade is something not common? The flaws in the steel make it of little use anymore. Reason to sell perhaps.

Regards
Marc

[Pertinax]

Mandau hilts were a form of currency in Borneo. If necessary, the owner could remove the hilt from the sword and sell it.

Best regards,
Yuri

[Marc M.]

Originally Posted by Pertinax

Mandau hilts were a form of currency in Borneo. If necessary, the owner could remove the hilt from the sword and sell it.

Best regards,
Yuri

Hi Yuri, thanks for the info, no idea the handle was/is a monetary value. You do come across loose handles.

Regards
Marc

[asomotif]

Originally Posted by Marc M.

Do you have an opinion on the blade, apparently a laminated blade is something not common? The flaws in the steel make it of little use anymore. Reason to sell perhaps.

Regards
Marc

Hi Marc,

Do you have picture of the other side of the blade ?

Roughly / locally forged blades are sometimes referred to as "mantikei".
I have 1 blade in my collection with a similar surface as this one.
They are rare, but I am not sure if they have a special status.

[Marc M.]

Originally Posted by asomotif

Hi Marc,

Do you have picture of the other side of the blade ?

Roughly / locally forged blades are sometimes referred to as "mantikei".
I have 1 blade in my collection with a similar surface as this one.
They are rare, but I am not sure if they have a special status.

I read on the forum in an old post that when the men left the village to settle a conflict, the big mandau were taken with them and the small ones stayed in the village to defend it. I also thought I read that the mandau's were kept in the men's house, longhouse. No idea if this is correct, can't find the post again.

Regards
Marc

[Pertinax]

Originally Posted by asomotif

Roughly / locally forged blades are sometimes referred to as "mantikei".
I have 1 blade in my collection with a similar surface as this one.
They are rare, but I am not sure if they have a special status.

Here is what A.W. Nieuwenhuis wrote about blacksmithing in Borneo:

…Cheaper and better European iron has, as already mentioned, replaced the home-smelted iron previously used exclusively by these tribes. The natives living along the middle reaches of the Mahakam and Kapuri have completely abandoned smelting their own iron; above the Mahakam Falls, it is still practiced occasionally by the Long Glat. For this purpose, a large quantity of charcoal is first burned in the forest, then iron ore is sought in the scree banks of some small tributaries of the Mahakam. This iron ore occurs here in yellow-brown lumps in the form of blunt twigs and small cylinders, and is said to be of varying quality depending on the river. A strong fire is then lit in a hole in the ground, and alternating layers of charcoal and ore are kept ablaze until completely burned. After cooling, a lump of iron mixed with slag is found at the bottom of the hole. Understandably, the carbon content varies greatly, and cast iron, steel, and wrought iron are unevenly mixed within it. From such a lump, the blacksmith then chips off a piece the size of the object he intends to make. Even the best weaponsmiths have difficulty distinguishing and converting the different types of iron into one another…

…Therefore, if a weaponsmith wants to create a sword with the properties of steel, he will only immediately find the right one by chance; most swords that must meet a specific required property are repeatedly reforged and mixed with new types of iron. The smiths know that steel can be hardened, but iron cannot, and that pieces of iron with certain properties, welded together, can produce a metal that can be hardened easily; however, they always remain at the trial and error stage, and a homogeneous mass is almost never achieved. Hardening occurs only in its crudest form, by suddenly immersing the entire glowing object in water; hardening with oil or partial hardening, e.g., when forging a sword, is completely unknown.

For the reasons mentioned above, the particularly good swords to which the Bahau smiths owe their fame are rare and only come about by chance; they can never compete in quality with the best weapons made by European smiths. By far the majority of swords possess the qualities of iron rather than steel weapons, and even those with beautiful inlays I have often seen straightened by their owners after they had suffered wear and tear. Occasionally, parts pop out of the edges, or large chunks fly off, etc. Thus, apart from the difficulties associated with smelting the iron, it is understandable that the natives, among the items purchased at the coastal points, mainly bring large quantities of good iron bars up into the interior, despite the weight of the load. Swords forged from this iron are therefore much more highly valued than those made from their own material…

…Sword-making, in particular, suffered most from the introduction of European goods from the coast; furthermore, the fact that the presence of a European administration has severely restricted warfare among the Bahau tribes has also had an unfavorable effect. As a result, for example, beautiful swords of good quality are no longer forged at Kapuas. During my visit to the local population, the blacksmith was able to make me a sword and decorate it with engravings based on ancient designs, but the quality of the iron left much to be desired and made the weapon completely unsuitable for military purposes…