Schiavona real or fake? 🧐

[ulfberth]

I agree with Jim, the way the question is asked, "for me it looks like false sword made to decieve someone" it seems to me like the sword is not yours but for sale somewere .
Of course i could be wrong and in that case i apologise beforehand, but i asked for extra pictures and got no respons. If im not mistaken this forum is not for commenting on swords that are still on sale and-or waiting to be sold.
So my question to Serdar is : is this sword your own or is it for sale somewhere?
kind regards
Ulfberth

[Jim McDougall]

Well stated Ulfberth.................I guess we've been doing this so long here that postings in this demeanor seem rather out of character.
Stuff like this is pretty common on facebook, but here our objective is learning from actual historic examples in the main body of text. These kinds of questions are best handled privately.

No offense intended to Serdar, just clarifying the protocols that we try to maintain. It sounds as if he already had a good idea of the answers to questions.

[serdar]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Well stated Ulfberth.................I guess we've been doing this so long here that postings in this demeanor seem rather out of character.
Stuff like this is pretty common on facebook, but here our objective is learning from actual historic examples in the main body of text. These kinds of questions are best handled privately.

No offense intended to Serdar, just clarifying the protocols that we try to maintain. It sounds as if he already had a good idea of the answers to questions.

No problem, but how will you learn if you dont post picture and ask?
Books are limited, people also, but www people are best of both.

Yes i doubted in its originality, marks are wrong, blade, basket etc. But you never know, and only when i took it in hand i can declare something ok or not ok, it was a false sword, latter i found out it was sold by the same person i acquired a polish sword that was a fake.

[Triarii]

The stand out is the blade markings - they are very crisp for something supposedly done up to c.375 years ago. The'ye also very poorly aligned - even the indistinct ones often seen are carefully placed. Finally they seem to made up of multile punches. The anchor, often seen at the end of the fuller on possibly German swords, is one quality stamp rather then made up from bits.

[serdar]

Originally Posted by Triarii

The stand out is the blade markings - they are very crisp for something supposedly done up to c.375 years ago. The'ye also very poorly aligned - even the indistinct ones often seen are carefully placed. Finally they seem to made up of multile punches. The anchor, often seen at the end of the fuller on possibly German swords, is one quality stamp rather then made up from bits.

You are right!
It was offered to me when i posted it, and those markings and pomel looked fake as f. But i was virgin in schiavonas then, so i needed to ask if someone knows about it, but few days later i held it in my hands it was obvious fake.

Problem is i thought maybe it is a local Dalmatian made one and cleaned very well, mybe.
But in Dalmatia they made baskets only, and blades very rarely, and thos are of high quality.

From then till now thru my hands pased around 50-60 schiavonas, and this one was only fake that i encountered.

Unfortunately, fakes are on market, but this kind of a fake isnt problem, you can tell even with little knowledge on schiavonas i had then, but there are very detailed fakes coming from hungary, poland, slovenia, chech republic, from good blacksmithsthat are problem when you buy online and cant hold it in your hands.

I gave up online buys, and auctions where i cant hold it first in my hands, after buying some fakes i learned my lessons.

[serdar]

Originally Posted by ulfberth

I agree with Jim, the way the question is asked, "for me it looks like false sword made to decieve someone" it seems to me like the sword is not yours but for sale somewere .
Of course i could be wrong and in that case i apologise beforehand, but i asked for extra pictures and got no respons. If im not mistaken this forum is not for commenting on swords that are still on sale and-or waiting to be sold.
So my question to Serdar is : is this sword your own or is it for sale somewhere?
kind regards
Ulfberth

That sword was offered to me by friend of a friend, and i concluded after i took it in my hands that it is a false sword, sword nade to deceive someone.
I didnt answer becouse i forget, and write sword of my list of things.