Wax (?) on the pendok

A. G. Maisey · 19th May 2024, 10:35 PM

Post #12 Gustav?

You can see Jogja characteristics in this sunggingan pendok?

Am I correct in this assumption?

Detlef, I was referring to the picture of another similar pendok, it was a picture I was looking for, perhaps Gustav has formed the opinion that your sunggingan has a pendok body that displays Jogja characteristics.

Gustav · 20th May 2024, 12:00 AM

Yes Alan, you are wright in this assumption - the Buntut of Sunggingan Pendok is Jogja style, as the Buntut of the initial Keris of this thread is.

A. G. Maisey · 20th May 2024, 12:34 AM

Interesting opinion Gustav.

Thank you.

A. G. Maisey · 20th May 2024, 01:41 AM

Here we have a few pendoks.

From the left we have two pendoks that most collectors at the present time would classify as Banyumas, however, these two pendoks both came off very old Surakarta (ie, Solo) gayaman wrongkos.

The third pendok from the left is a Solo Bunton, that is followed by a Jogjakarta Bunton, then a Solo Bunton, then a Jogjakarta witth a slorok, then a Solo Blewah, then a Jogjakarta with a slorok, then a Solo Blewah, then a Jogjakarta Blewah, the last two items in this line are sloroks, one from a Jogjakarta pendok, one from a Solo pendok.

Note the difference in overall profile, and the way in which the Jogja style pendok narrows towards the buntut (literally "tail", "rear end"), something that is difficult to see in a photo is that the buntut of a Jogja pendok is much more rounded than a Solo pendok buntut.

The overall profile of the pendok that Kino posted a photo of is that of a Solo pendok, however, it has a slorok that is decidedly Jogjakarta in style. The slorok of Kino's pendok could have been produced by alteration, but it is more likely that the entire pendok was made on a Solo sanglon (mandrel) in a Jogja workshop, most likely in Imogiri.

rasdan · 20th May 2024, 06:07 AM

Hi everybody,

What Alan said is spot on. Pendok in first post is a made in Jogja for Solo keris. So it is a Solo pendok wannabe and looks more like a Jogja pendok. I have one example but it is currently with a tukang for repair.

Another type is Solo pendok but made with repoussé technique. That is also Jogja made. I dont know if there are old Solo pendok that uses repoussé technique.

All this are new and typical pengrajin level works. I don't know if older ones exists although the one in the first post look like it has some age to it.

There is trend of mixing Jogja and Solo features on warangkas. But to my knowledge it is more towards styling and not with that type pendok. And I don't know how old is the trend or whether it is a legit style or just newer creation.

20th May 2024, 01:41 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	Here we have a few pendoks. From the left we have two pendoks that most collectors at the present time would classify as Banyumas, however, these two pendoks both came off very old Surakarta (ie, Solo) gayaman wrongkos. The third pendok from the left is a Solo Bunton, that is followed by a Jogjakarta Bunton, then a Solo Bunton, then a Jogjakarta witth a slorok, then a Solo Blewah, then a Jogjakarta with a slorok, then a Solo Blewah, then a Jogjakarta Blewah, the last two items in this line are sloroks, one from a Jogjakarta pendok, one from a Solo pendok. Note the difference in overall profile, and the way in which the Jogja style pendok narrows towards the buntut (literally "tail", "rear end"), something that is difficult to see in a photo is that the buntut of a Jogja pendok is much more rounded than a Solo pendok buntut. The overall profile of the pendok that Kino posted a photo of is that of a Solo pendok, however, it has a slorok that is decidedly Jogjakarta in style. The slorok of Kino's pendok could have been produced by alteration, but it is more likely that the entire pendok was made on a Solo sanglon (mandrel) in a Jogja workshop, most likely in Imogiri. Attached Images Last edited by A. G. Maisey; 20th May 2024 at 05:32 AM. Reason: error correction.

19th May 2024, 10:35 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	Post #12 Gustav? You can see Jogja characteristics in this sunggingan pendok? Am I correct in this assumption? Detlef, I was referring to the picture of another similar pendok, it was a picture I was looking for, perhaps Gustav has formed the opinion that your sunggingan has a pendok body that displays Jogja characteristics.

20th May 2024, 12:00 AM	#2
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,295	Yes Alan, you are wright in this assumption - the Buntut of Sunggingan Pendok is Jogja style, as the Buntut of the initial Keris of this thread is.

20th May 2024, 12:34 AM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	Interesting opinion Gustav. Thank you.

20th May 2024, 06:07 AM	#5
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	Hi everybody, What Alan said is spot on. Pendok in first post is a made in Jogja for Solo keris. So it is a Solo pendok wannabe and looks more like a Jogja pendok. I have one example but it is currently with a tukang for repair. Another type is Solo pendok but made with repoussé technique. That is also Jogja made. I dont know if there are old Solo pendok that uses repoussé technique. All this are new and typical pengrajin level works. I don't know if older ones exists although the one in the first post look like it has some age to it. There is trend of mixing Jogja and Solo features on warangkas. But to my knowledge it is more towards styling and not with that type pendok. And I don't know how old is the trend or whether it is a legit style or just newer creation.