Medieval style dagger repro but how old ??

francantolin · 17th May 2024, 08:21 PM

Hello Marius,

Really nice dagger !
The new pictures help a lot!
An high quality dagger certainly expensive but not old I guess,
For me made by a blacksmith in the second period of the 20th century.
PS: I'd like to get one like that

Marius66 · 18th May 2024, 09:13 PM

I just want to add this picture,
The blade moves a little in the scabbard and the velvet is used/missing inside so I don't think all dagger and scabbard are so recent.

francantolin · 29th May 2024, 01:17 PM

Looking for my monogramms and Kaiser Willhelm II,
I found this german royal gift dagger with damas blade.

If it hadn't such an amazing history,
we could think it is just a recent reproduction

Marius66 · 31st May 2024, 04:07 PM

Thank you Francantolin
for your imput !

I sharpened the edges and age the blade with a special trick ,
I find it looks older/ authentic now

mariusgmioc · 1st June 2024, 09:42 AM

This is a LATE 20th century ('60-'80) INDIAN reproduction.
The pattern welded damascus is of quite typical Indian type (low quality and mass produced) and so are the decorations. And NO, the fact that it has a pattern welded damascus blade does not make it a "real weapon" unless you consider wallhangers and letter openers "real weapons."
Now, you can believe what you want but this is my opinion.

Marius66 · 1st June 2024, 04:51 PM

Hello Marius,
The Marius's war ,😁
That's what I asked in my first post ( indian damas...)
but I couldn't find any like this one.
I'm still not sure it is 19th/early 20th but it is strongly made and if it is mass produced it won't be difficult to find similar ones on internet, ebay...

PS: it's not my fault if your silver Phurba was placed in the miscellania forum and not considered no more as a weapon but a deco piece, I also have one and they are really well made and ethnics collectable items

fernando · 1st June 2024, 06:18 PM

Sorry Marius. We brought back your piece and so reopened a chance to find someone in the Euro forum with solid or common evidence that this is an actual weapon... on the contrary. Now it is time to send it back to Miscellania forum. This doesn not prevent the piece from being seen by members with some evidence or consensual opinion is presented over its authenticity.

17th May 2024, 08:21 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	Hello Marius, Really nice dagger ! The new pictures help a lot! An high quality dagger certainly expensive but not old I guess, For me made by a blacksmith in the second period of the 20th century. PS: I'd like to get one like that Attached Images

18th May 2024, 09:13 PM	#2
Marius66 Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 131	I just want to add this picture, The blade moves a little in the scabbard and the velvet is used/missing inside so I don't think all dagger and scabbard are so recent. Attached Images

29th May 2024, 01:17 PM	#3
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 905	Looking for my monogramms and Kaiser Willhelm II, I found this german royal gift dagger with damas blade. If it hadn't such an amazing history, we could think it is just a recent reproduction Attached Images

31st May 2024, 04:07 PM	#4
Marius66 Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 131	Thank you Francantolin for your imput ! I sharpened the edges and age the blade with a special trick , I find it looks older/ authentic now Attached Images

1st June 2024, 09:42 AM	#5
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,911	This is a LATE 20th century ('60-'80) INDIAN reproduction. The pattern welded damascus is of quite typical Indian type (low quality and mass produced) and so are the decorations. And NO, the fact that it has a pattern welded damascus blade does not make it a "real weapon" unless you consider wallhangers and letter openers "real weapons." Now, you can believe what you want but this is my opinion. Last edited by mariusgmioc; 1st June 2024 at 10:25 AM.

1st June 2024, 04:51 PM	#6
Marius66 Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 131	Hello Marius, The Marius's war ,😁 That's what I asked in my first post ( indian damas...) but I couldn't find any like this one. I'm still not sure it is 19th/early 20th but it is strongly made and if it is mass produced it won't be difficult to find similar ones on internet, ebay... PS: it's not my fault if your silver Phurba was placed in the miscellania forum and not considered no more as a weapon but a deco piece, I also have one and they are really well made and ethnics collectable items

1st June 2024, 06:18 PM	#7
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Sorry Marius. We brought back your piece and so reopened a chance to find someone in the Euro forum with solid or common evidence that this is an actual weapon... on the contrary. Now it is time to send it back to Miscellania forum. This doesn not prevent the piece from being seen by members with some evidence or consensual opinion is presented over its authenticity.