![]()  | 
	
| 
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#1 | 
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Jun 2015 
				Location: Minneapolis,MN 
				
				
					Posts: 361
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
| 
			
			 | 
		#2 | ||
| 
			
			 Member 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Dec 2004 
				
				
				
					Posts: 1,020
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 Quote: 
	
 I don’t know if the horizontal predates the diagonal. I leaning towards the shape of it being called kianoko, not the method. Quote: 
	
  | 
||
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
![]()  | 
	
	
		
  | 
	
		
  |