The Knaud

A. G. Maisey · 10th December 2023, 12:30 PM

I am bringing this thread out of hiding so that I do not need to respond to several private emails, the questions in those emails were all similar, and all from people who are planning a visit to Jawa & Bali.

A reading of this thread will, I believe, be of considerable assistance to those people. It might even help to save them some folding money too.

Montino Bourbon · 10th December 2023, 10:11 PM

it might be out of line, but I’d love to know what you saw recently… That was a multimillion dollar bit of ‘shonkery’.

A. G. Maisey · 10th December 2023, 10:18 PM

Montino, I visit Indonesia regularly, the usual is at least once each year and for two or three months. These days I spend about equal time in Jawa & Bali, and I left the tourist circuit many, many years ago.

I'd like to keep on doing this.

In fact, in the times when I am not in Indonesia I'd like to continue in my present undisturbed lifestyle.

There are some things that are best left unsaid.

Montino Bourbon · 12th December 2023, 04:16 AM

Ustad Ali Akbar Khan said: “ truth is not something to be thrown around, like dung, but must be used sparingly.“ So I understand what you’re saying.

Pendita65 · 13th December 2023, 11:20 PM

Hi there,

i enclosed a picture of the Knaud Keris that i took two weeks ago in the World Museum former Tropen Museum Amsterdam.

I didn't read the book by van Duuren although i went through it quickly in the Museum store.

David van Duuren has been many years the conservator of the Asian department of the Tropen Museum and wrote several books about the Keris and other subjects of Indonesia.

Best wishes, Martin

10th December 2023, 10:11 PM	#2
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 301	multimillion dollar fake it might be out of line, but I’d love to know what you saw recently… That was a multimillion dollar bit of ‘shonkery’.

12th December 2023, 04:16 AM	#4
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 301	truth Ustad Ali Akbar Khan said: “ truth is not something to be thrown around, like dung, but must be used sparingly.“ So I understand what you’re saying.

13th December 2023, 11:20 PM	#5
Pendita65 Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 132	Knaud's Keris on display at WereldMuseum Amsterdam Hi there, i enclosed a picture of the Knaud Keris that i took two weeks ago in the World Museum former Tropen Museum Amsterdam. I didn't read the book by van Duuren although i went through it quickly in the Museum store. David van Duuren has been many years the conservator of the Asian department of the Tropen Museum and wrote several books about the Keris and other subjects of Indonesia. Best wishes, Martin Attached Images

10th December 2023, 12:30 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	I am bringing this thread out of hiding so that I do not need to respond to several private emails, the questions in those emails were all similar, and all from people who are planning a visit to Jawa & Bali. A reading of this thread will, I believe, be of considerable assistance to those people. It might even help to save them some folding money too.

10th December 2023, 10:18 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	Montino, I visit Indonesia regularly, the usual is at least once each year and for two or three months. These days I spend about equal time in Jawa & Bali, and I left the tourist circuit many, many years ago. I'd like to keep on doing this. In fact, in the times when I am not in Indonesia I'd like to continue in my present undisturbed lifestyle. There are some things that are best left unsaid.