'Rose' Mark on the spine of Solingen blades

[Hanger1]

Hello, I am a new member and also posted this one sword with another in my recent, original thread to ask for help. However the one blade fits well with this discussion and the request for other marked blades, potentially Solingen. This sword has a mystery hilt on it, and then has the blade with the etchings/engravings.

I have struck out with my other posted thread thus far, so maybe more people will see it again here. Thanks all.

[Radboud]

Originally Posted by Hanger1

I have struck out with my other posted thread thus far, so maybe more people will see it again here. Thanks all.

Hello Hanger, that's a nice late 18th Century sword you have there. Difficult to attribute to any particulare nation as the markings are fairly typical for the time.

The only thing I can add is that according to M. Petard and Blondieau, the 'petite montmorency' moniker came into use in the late 19th Century and broadly applies to a type of sword that was popular in France between 1788 and 1800, based on the style of blade that looked like a smaller version of the Montmorency Dragoons' sword.

[Radboud]

In keeping with this thread I recently came across a most interesting Spanish sword. Described as a Spanish light cavalry sabre it is marked with the typical Solingen style decorations and cartouche, has a 'Rose' on the spine however it is also marked Toledo Ano 1823.

This is historically interesting because it coinsides with the restoration of Toledo as a sword manufacturing base and it shows that some of their products used imported Solingen made blades. But most interstingly, it gives us a fixed date.

[Jacenty]

I will add pictures of my spade to the discussion.
It is a French sword, originally, royal protection mod. 1780 by Louis XVI. Manufactured between 1787 and 1805. A regulation one, used by the French Guards of the Revolutionary and First Empire period of Napoleon I., infantry and cavalry officers. At the hilt the punch "king's head" - Solingen Brothers Weyersberg.

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by Hanger1

Hello, I am a new member and also posted this one sword with another in my recent, original thread to ask for help. However the one blade fits well with this discussion and the request for other marked blades, potentially Solingen. This sword has a mystery hilt on it, and then has the blade with the etchings/engravings.

I have struck out with my other posted thread thus far, so maybe more people will see it again here. Thanks all.

With European sabers of this period, it is hard to pinpoint the nationality of the ubiquitous stirrup hilts which fall outside the 'regulation' patterns known. The style of the celestial symbols suggest of course mid to end of 18th century and possibly Austro Hungarian, or perhaps of course French. The French army had strong presence of Hungarian forces in their ranks, further popularizing the 'hussar' phenomenon in cavalry fashion.
While Solingen used these kinds of celestial groupings on blades, these were also used in Styrian application as well as French (especially in Nantes).