Balinese Keris

Pendita65 · 24th November 2023, 10:52 PM

Hello David and Alan,

Thank you for your answer and yes the difference in names I did not think off. I am still learning but love the history and craftsmanship that is used in the past by the creators of these beautiful Keris. I think there are different styles in Wewer so what type would suit the hilt?

Have to find a good book about Bali Keris.

Martin.

David · 25th November 2023, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pendita65

Hello David,

Thank you for your answer and yes the difference in names I did not think off. I am still learning but love the history and craftsmanship that is used in the past by the creators of these beautiful Keris. I think there are different styles in Wewer so what type would suit the hilt?

Have to find a good book about Bali Keris.

Martin.

Balinese wewer vary mostly with the materials used. Gold, silver, brass, etc, generally decorated with various stones, glass or pastes. The "stones" are usually white, black, red or blue or a combination there of. They are generally cabochon "stones', but more recent ones seem to have added cut stones or glass to the mix. Of course these wewer can be found in all levels of quality from simple and cheap to precious metals and really gemstones. Though in Balinese ensembles you will often find glass and paste "stones" in the mix. It is relatively easy to find wewer for sale in places like eBay. If the photos are good you can usually get a good idea of the quality of the wewer being presented, even if you can't be sure of the materials.
Yes Alan, i thought you might comment on "Tavern" as a translation of "warong". But that is what the Google translator kicked out. I do agree it is not a satisfactory translation, but my point was to show that "warong" was not the word Martin was looking for.

A. G. Maisey · 25th November 2023, 08:03 PM

Yeah, I guessed it might be a google result.

But its like I said, "warong" is a legit alternative spelling & pronunciation, just not the usual one. I just checked Echols & Shadilly & that also lists it as an alternative.

Sajen · 26th November 2023, 02:14 AM

A warung is a small shop on the street where you can buy nearly everything, cigarettes, obat (medicine), instant noodles and so on.

A. G. Maisey · 26th November 2023, 03:03 AM

Yes Detlef, that is one kind of warung, but a stall in a market is also a warung, warung effectively means a stall, most warungs you cannot walk into, the counter is at the front and the owner has the stock behind him or, more often her.

Our little discussion group is Keris Warung Kopi, & there are warungs that sell only coffee, or only drinks or even full meals --- often better than a restaurant.

Sometimes a big pricey restaurant will go out into the street and buy some particular meal --- something like sate --- and dress it up on a fancy plate and then serve at a 500% profit.

There are warungs that act as a rental point for prostitutes, they gather there and can make a glass of tea last all night, or at least until somebody rents them.

Lots of different kinds of warung --- or if you prefer warong.

24th November 2023, 10:52 PM	#1
Pendita65 Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 132	Thnx Hello David and Alan, Thank you for your answer and yes the difference in names I did not think off. I am still learning but love the history and craftsmanship that is used in the past by the creators of these beautiful Keris. I think there are different styles in Wewer so what type would suit the hilt? Have to find a good book about Bali Keris. Martin. Last edited by Pendita65; 25th November 2023 at 07:30 PM.

25th November 2023, 08:03 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	Yeah, I guessed it might be a google result. But its like I said, "warong" is a legit alternative spelling & pronunciation, just not the usual one. I just checked Echols & Shadilly & that also lists it as an alternative.

26th November 2023, 02:14 AM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,415	A warung is a small shop on the street where you can buy nearly everything, cigarettes, obat (medicine), instant noodles and so on.

26th November 2023, 03:03 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	Yes Detlef, that is one kind of warung, but a stall in a market is also a warung, warung effectively means a stall, most warungs you cannot walk into, the counter is at the front and the owner has the stock behind him or, more often her. Our little discussion group is Keris Warung Kopi, & there are warungs that sell only coffee, or only drinks or even full meals --- often better than a restaurant. Sometimes a big pricey restaurant will go out into the street and buy some particular meal --- something like sate --- and dress it up on a fancy plate and then serve at a 500% profit. There are warungs that act as a rental point for prostitutes, they gather there and can make a glass of tea last all night, or at least until somebody rents them. Lots of different kinds of warung --- or if you prefer warong.