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![]() ![]() From the occupation from German prisoners I never had heard but will research about it. I guess that my sword is from the WWII period. Regards, Detlef |
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Thank you for the response! and while as I note, these areas of collecting and study are not typically in my usual field. These are highly specialized and extremely complex areas and pretty daunting to those of us who do not regularly frequent them. However some examples just command attention, and I could not resist this one! Its funny, as you note, terms for a sword form can virtually be different from village to village..........I recall Alan Maisey using those exact words in one of our conversations many years back ![]() Though possibly of WWII vintage, in ethnographic weapons, age is relatively unimportant as many weapons are simply more recent examples of forms long in use, and represent the culture itself. Your observations seem to me soundly placed plausibilities than assumptions, thank you for adding them. Outstanding example!!!!!! |
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Thank you again Jim! And I agree with you, it's not important how old such a sword is when it's still worked in a traditional manner.
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Hello Detlef,
you have bought a very nice and interesting sword. The metal handle is a rarity. But what kind of metal is "mamas"? I tried to translate it into German, the result was "Mamas". Hope you can help me. Best regards from Berlin Peter |
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![]() Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 9th November 2023 at 10:06 PM. |
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Sajen,
I'll add my voice to those who congratulated you on a very fine sword. There is a lot of "rustic" character in the sword itself. I particularly like the brass hilt, which seems to have some age judging from how the designs have worn from handling over the years. The blade similarly looks old and you noted a nice patina. Just from these pictures, the sword looks to be at least 19th C. in manufacture, although the scabbard might well be later. Very nice. Ian. |
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Congrats, Detlef, a very nice sword!
The hilt does look legit: While age is often easier to fake with metal pieces, this looks good to me; I'd estimate it and the blade as being antique, indeed. Scabbard is a later replacement (post WWII) as shown by carving quality and materials. These more slender swords were either worn as EDC single blade/tool or as a secondary sword behind the main/heavier sword (akin to samurai usage). For all Nias blades, their stylistic details including names and local attribution need much more research as already indicated. BTW, most extant Nias swords with balls originate from the post-headhunting days. Dutch and German missionaries were very active on Nias in eradicating old traditions during the 19th century (first in the North, later in the South); most Nias blades on the market are from the second half of the 20th century; older examples usually originate from the late colonial period (roughly turn of the century up to WWII). As with all Indonesian blades, most older pieces do originate from Dutch or British colonial sources and hardly anything can be inferred from the current owners place of living. Regards, Kai |
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I agree with your age estimation, the sword is much older as the scabbard which will be a later replacement. Regards, Detlef |
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